NYC begins a Municipal ID program

whynot_31 · July 2015

Here's a good example:

http://patch.com/new-york/ditmaspark/video-police-beat-young-man-inside-brooklyn-target

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/nypd-punch-pin-man-arrest-bklyn-target-video-article-1.2305763?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

In some of these instances, the individual does not want to provide NYPD identification because they have an outstanding warrant. ....the individual concludes they have nothing to lose, and violence results. NYC ID does not help here, but the "Begin Again" events may have some impact on the lease dangerous of this population.

In other instances, the individuals are not complying with police because they know that (as a result of not having ID) they will be held by police until their identity can be verified. As a result, they conclude that they have nothing to lose, and violence results. NYC ID could eliminate many such instances.

pheightsresident · August 2015

Just applied for membership to the BBG. While you don't get your permanent, one-year membership card (and other benefits, such as 2 guest passes, etc.) immediately, they do give you a temporary membership card on the spot.

Next up? Probably BAM Cinema. Although I'd stop by any place that I happen to find myself close to.

pheightsresident · August 2015

BAM is done as of today. But it's going to take about 3 weeks for physical ID card to arrive.

whynot_31 · August 2015

Here is more about Begin Again, the program I mentioned above that has similar objectives to NYC ID: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/amnesty-in-brooklyn

Both programs tend to:
-drive law and order types nuts

-please policy wonks who feel the cost savings that are created by the programs are worth it.

-please people who believe NYC is over-policed uses jail excessively.

whynot_31 · August 2015

It is getting some traction: http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/government/5824-at-begin-again-signs-of-new-approach-to-broken-justice-system

mugofmead111 · August 2015

I already have a membership to BBG so I can't use ID NYC for a free one year membership, even if my current membership were to lapse.

Today I made the long trek to the Bronx to sign up at the Bronx Zoo and at the NYBG. The Bronx Zoo have me a membership card on the spot while NYBG gave me a temporary one. NOW I can finally go to the Prospect Park Zoo down the block for free.

I'm waiting for the Brooklyn Museum card to come in the mail.

I'll get around to going to the Manhattan cultural institutions one day.

I already have separate BPL and NYPL cards so I don't need to use ID NYC as a library card.

emilyb · August 2015

Hmmm. sounds like some of what isn't covered by ID NYC (being able to open a bank account, etc.) is exactly what you CAN use a non-driver ID for. I think I'll just renew my non-driver ID... it's much more useful on a practical level.

You're right about museum attendants "shaming" people who don't automatically want to pay $20 to gain admission, but when I was much younger, I developed a thick skin and didn't care. Then I ended up working for the Brooklyn Museum (and later, part time at BBG) and happily enjoyed "reciprocal priviliges" - being an employee at one local cultural institution gets you free admission to lots of others. I'd hung onto the old work IDs for years after having moved on to other jobs, so until they started looking harder at the expiration dates (and then reformatting the logo for BBG) , I put the IDs to good use. It was particularly useful when trying to entertain my son when he was young enough to get into places free - we could spend a day at the Botanic Garden (he loved the giant koi, snapping turtles and ducks) and occasionally I could coax him into the Brooklyn Museum...

whynot_31 · August 2015

If you have enough "points" to get a NYS non-driver ID, that is definately the way to go.

The advantage of the NYC ID is that it provides some ID to folks who otherwise would have none.

mugofmead111 · August 2015

If you have enough "points" to get a NYS non-driver ID, that is definately the way to go.

The advantage of the NYC ID is that is provides some ID to folks who otherwise would have none.

...or not enough.

A few years ago when my mother misplaced her NYS ID, I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to get her a replacement. She was a U.S. citizen, but collecting enough documentation to meet the minimum number of points was a challenge.

whynot_31 · December 2015

Year 1: 670,000 IDs issued.

http://www.twcnews.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2015/12/28/idnyc-program-a-resounding-success-among-immigrant-new-yorkers.html

pragmaticguy · December 2015

I wonder how many of the 700,000 already had drivers licenses or state ID but just got the card to get into the museums and other places free. I'm sure it wasn't just immigrants or undocumented folks applying for the card.

whynot_31 · December 2015

Indeed.

For example, one of the intended goals of the cards is to reduce the need for the NYPD to detain someone charged with a minor offense (for example, drinking in public).

Is the NYPD Pct in Corona Queens (a largely immigrant area) finding that they do not need to detain as many people to verify their identity compared to a year ago?

...are mere violations for such offense being issued instead of the costly ritual of arrest, transport, incarcerate, arraign, release?

whynot_31 · February 2016

NYC is now beginning a program in which it can legally provide immigration VISAs to victims of crime.

pragmaticguy · February 2016

Donald Trump isn't going to like this.

whynot_31 · December 2016

In response, DeBlasio pledges to protect the data or destroy it.

...which makes those in favor of enforcing the present immigration laws annoyed.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/12/05/idnyc-documents-lawsuit/

whynot_31 · December 2016

Detroit is starting a similar program.

https://twitter.com/jmunizreyes/status/807673035423617024

whynot_31 · December 2016

DeBlasio can't destroy the data.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/staten-island-republicans-block-citys-ability-to-protect-undocumented-idnyc-users-9433149

So, I guess he will try to protect it.

whynot_31 · December 2017

NYC immigrants fear raids as city fails to destroy ID card records https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna828541

MOD · December 2017

I'd be scared. Trump is freakin crazy.

whynot_31 · December 2017

Trump might love the irony: A program that was designed to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation would end up making them more vulnerable.

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