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115 Kingston (near Bergen) to become a restaurant - Page 2 — Brooklynian

115 Kingston (near Bergen) to become a restaurant

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  • Hi Nothinlikeabklyngirl - I'd like something closer to home - not having to cross Atlantic Avenue. Something on the Crown Heights side. I think there are alot of possible opps in the neighborhood
  • Just showing the progress that hasn't been made. This one's moving slowly.

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  • I agree with whynot that Lubavitch (or Satmar, for that matter) come awfully close to being cults. For me, I find it really off-putting that, in virtually every Lubavitch home, one sees a picture of the most recent rebbe, often one of his wife, and sometimes even pictures of the former rebbes. One thing, though: I have often been approached by different Lubavitcher on a social basis, though it most frequently involves an invitation to Shabbas or other holiday dinner. Then again, I'm a member of the tribe, albeit a fallen one.
    that's pretty interesting. i didn't realize how cultish they were until my boyfriend told me that at certain times of the year Lubavitcher men have regularly stopped him in Crown Heights to ask him if he's Jewish, presumably to rope him in to some religious service. sometimes even when he's riding his bike in the park. i would not have experienced this, being the wrong gender and wrong color for that kind of solicitation.


  • I agree with whynot that Lubavitch (or Satmar, for that matter) come awfully close to being cults. For me, I find it really off-putting that, in virtually every Lubavitch home, one sees a picture of the most recent rebbe, often one of his wife, and sometimes even pictures of the former rebbes. One thing, though: I have often been approached by different Lubavitcher on a social basis, though it most frequently involves an invitation to Shabbas or other holiday dinner. Then again, I'm a member of the tribe, albeit a fallen one.
    that's pretty interesting. i didn't realize how cultish they were until my boyfriend told me that at certain times of the year Lubavitcher men have regularly stopped him in Crown Heights to ask him if he's Jewish, presumably to rope him in to some religious service. sometimes even when he's riding his bike in the park. i would not have experienced this, being the wrong gender and wrong color for that kind of solicitation.




    Yeah, I believe that's related to Sukkot.  As someone who looks stereotypically Jewish they've practically stalked me for the last decade ("Are you Jewish?").  At first I tried explaining that my father is Jewish and my mother is Catholic, making me a religious bastard (as a result of the matrilineal and patrilineal nature of those respective religions).  But I soon realized I was better off just saying "no."

     

    http://forward.com/news/184484/meet-the-are-you-jewish-chabad-guys/

  • I'm a blue-eyed WASP and I've been accosted several times and asked if I was Jewish.  When I asked why, they said they were trying to form a minion, that is, a group of 10 Jewish males needed to conduct a shabbat service. Seemed kind of like a neighborly thing to do if you ask me.

  • whynot_31
    edited July 2015
    I don't mind being asked, but on large holiday's I am asked several times by different pairs of guys.

    As a result, I think they could make the process more efficient for all concerned if they passed out stickers similar to the "I donated blood today" or "I voted today" ones.

    It would state: "I've been asked if I am Jewish today", and be given to people regardless of what they answered.

    (I might even ask for an extra sticker for future use)

  • Meat has recently begun the (often long) process of obtaining an lic to serve alcohol. A full lic is sought, and there will be a sidewalk cafe.
  • @whynot_31, is there a link you can share?
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    I don't have a link yet. Entities tell the CB before they formally apply to the SLA, which then creates a link.

    They have entered the CB stage.
  • So it's still anticipated to be Meat?  I wasn't sure if they would change it up as a result of Boeuf and Bun.  If yes, there is going to be some serious kosher meat on that side of the parkway.
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    They are using Meat at least as their corporate name. They can operate the business under a different name.

    We won't know their decision until they file with the SLA. They have not gotten that far yet:

    115 Kingston Avenue
    Kings
    11213

    https://www.tran.sla.ny.gov/JSP/query/PublicQueryPremisesSearchPage.jsp

    I believe the proprieters own the whole building, including the soon-to-be apartments above. It would not surprise me if (as a result of a combination of factors) the tenants ended up being likely customers.
  • southeast
    edited August 2015
    @whynot_31 - I wouldn't be surprised if the tenants are not customers in the kosher sense.  Meaning, they may eat there, but not because they are kosher.

    The apartments will likely be market rate and maybe even luxury and a little ways out of "Jewish CH."  Many of the Jewish community are struggling with the high rent, and although would consider moving further from the center, would likely not do so to pay more.  

    There are, however, some (the more modern) that enjoy living close but not in the center; they get the best of both worlds - do as they please without getting any looks and still have the ability to enjoy all the amenities that they are used to, including mom's chicken soup.  But they can go anywhere and likely not looking for something fancy.

    Time will tell.
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    In Manhattan, many of the restaurants near Mount Sinai Beth Israel medical facilities are kosher, yet I see people eating in them who I strongly suspect do not value their "kosherness".

    My theory is that they eat there because:

    -The food is good, and/or

    -They aren't particularly price sensitive customers and/or

    -The restaurants' proximity to where they work (ie at Beth Israel) coupled with their limited time for lunch.


  • Meat will be catering to the larger kosher crowd, similar to Basil, Beouf and Bun, and now Izzy's. I'd say that at any given time at these restaurants, a significant amount of their customers enjoying the food are from other parts of Brooklyn, the Five Town, Queens, and even Manhattan.

    Many will travel quite the distance to enjoy good and unique kosher food.

    There is a new kosher restaurant called Bedford Kitchen in Queens which is attracting customers from near and far alike - http://www.bedfordkitchen.com/

    Apparently, there are many "neuveau foodies" in the orthodox world nowadays. :)
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    I got that sense when I took this photo at Beouf and Bun:

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    Granted, I took the photo on a Thursday night (the most popular night), but the place is regularly packed and I don't believe the Crown Heights area -alone- could achieve that.
  • whynot_31
    edited September 2015
    Returning to Meat:

    The proprieter rec'd the support of CB 8, and will now seek a lic from NYS SLA.

    Random details:
    89 seats.
    Closed Friday evening and during daylight hours on Saturday (ie Shabbat).
    Sidewalk cafe will be sought in future.
    Following landmark rules in construction and rehab.
  • And work on the building is now quite visible -- some new pediments above windows, and the black construction shroud around parts of the building. 
  • Crain's ran a piece today on the owners challenges at his other restaurant, Basil: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20160306/HOSPITALITY_TOURISM/160309905
  • https://www.facebook.com/meatny/ 

    They started a Facebook and instagram in February saying their grand opening is coming soon. I live around the corner from here and I can't wait to see what happens. They recently put up new green construction walls that go out onto the sidewalks and have been working more frequently than they seem to have in the past three years. 

    Calabria also just opened. Looking forward to trying their pizza!
  • whynot_31
    edited February 2018
    The owners state they are on track to open Meat this summer. 115 Kingston, aka 123 Kingston http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/ComplaintsByAddressServlet?requestid=1&allbin=3030527Screen Shot 2018-02-11 at 5.20.48 PM
  • This kind of rehabitTion of a deteriorating structure could only happen with. NEw money migrating into this area. It's a necessary thing for the survival of a city. A Beautiful building too. The previous owners weren't finacially able to do this. Can't wait!
  • Agree, @Dawndew. This building and the stores/restaurants that will come with it will beautify the area of North Kingston Ave.
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