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Meet your judges? Tuesday, August 18th — Brooklynian

Meet your judges? Tuesday, August 18th

I find this event interesting: image

Is this an attempt to get the Orthodox community to use the court system to settle disputes between Jews, despite norms that discourage same?

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  • Maybe, but it won't do much. They spelled all the hebrew backwards (left to right instead of right to left)
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    Ouch. Ms Whynot drew on her Hebrew School Hebrew and agrees that the final mem is on the right side of the word, when it should be on the left. She says it's worse than Bloomberg's attempt to speak Spanish. She also says she remembers sin v. shin using Spanish. I don't get it, but she says you will.
  • Wow, you're fast, Mr. Whynot. We posted the wrong graphic and took it down as fast as possible. 

    Here's the corrected version.

    Can I blame it on Albany instead of Jesse???


    Hamilton Meet The Judges Mailer final
  • I have a hard time blaming Albany or Jesse for not writing Hebrew well.

    Are you able to disclose the motivations behind this "let's remember not schedule this on a Saturday" event?

    IE Is this an attempt to get the Orthodox community to use the court system to settle disputes between Jews, despite norms that discourage same?
  • It says "You will appoint for yourself judges and officials [Bible verse]: Meet the Judge"
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    What are the chances that those who do not use the courts on religious grounds, are likely to do so as a result of such an event?
  • zero; none whatsoever.
  • That is my impression as well.

    My impression is that the subset perceives the prohibition as having very few exceptions, it is almost absolute.

    http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/litigation_in_secular_courts1.html

    I'd love to read credible case examples of just how far two such Orthodox opponents will go to avoid the NY Unified Court system.
  • stacey
    edited August 2015
    Read about Judge Garson and why, at least in my opinion, many women need to know about family and guardianship law and their rights.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/nyregion/20judge.html?_r=0
  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
    From the article Stacey links:

    "Their relationship came under scrutiny in 2002, after a woman who feared losing a pending divorce case contacted Nissim Elmann, an electronics salesman known as a “fixer” who reputedly arranged bribes in divorce and child custody cases for Orthodox Jews in the borough. Mr. Elmann told the litigant that she was too late because her husband, a client of Mr. Siminovsky’s, had already paid a bribe to Justice Garson, prosecutors said."

    My vantage point hasn't allowed me to reach a conclusion about how widespread such bribery is.

    However, I can imagine how thoroughly screwed a orthodox woman is in situations where she is religiously forbidden to use the NY courts, and then (even if she breaks such rules) has to come up with a bribe for the judge FIRST.

    ...which would be compounded if they lack access to capital and cash (ie are not in the workforce).

    Agreed: Said women need edcuation about the court system and their rights more than most.

  • whynot_31
    edited August 2015
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