Catfish, on Bedford near Park Place

Careful not to confuse Whynot's assessment of what he observed at the meeting with his own opinion. I haven't felt he has slandered anyone on this thread. Even though I wish he acknowledged that the CB really didn't want Catfish there in the first place, making them agree to stricter closing hours then necessary -Which is a tactic the board had used successfully a few months prior to scare a bar from opening on Washington.

Are they truly that loud and crazy or are the neighbors just uptight and not happy about "newcomers" (i.e. white kids)?

The latter is absolutely the case here. The place is not loud or crazy and is run by professional, smart people, whynot's slandering of them as ignorant about their environment notwithstanding.

I have seen two local business owners show up here to condemn his posts about their businesses. There may have been more I have missed. The Catfish guys would definitely be justified in doing the same.

But aren't you doing the same with respect to the neighbors who have concerns about the noise? The commentary as it's been relayed here was around noise, people smoking outside and the business staying open later than their license allows. You're accusing these people of being anti-white without any basis or justification for your position. At the same time, you seem unwilling to even contemplate that these people may have legitimate concerns. I can imagine that it would be difficult in the summer time to have people standing outside or underneath your windows smoking, where the smell of smoke may come into nearby apartments through windows or air conditioner vents. I know from my own experiences that people often don't anticipate how sound travels and that a phone conversation outside can indeed often be heard loud and clear by those that are indoors. And even if the place is supposed to close at 1am, just meerly the process of locking up and pulling down roll-down gates can sound incredibly loud on an otherwise quiet block and could conceivably awaken a baby or small child sleeping near a window.

If the owners of Catfish are as smart and professional as you say, I'd hope that they'd see these concerns as issues which can and should be addressed. While there may not be perfect solutions to them, the neighbors might appreciate the fact that they are attempting to address them instead of dismissing them outright.

FYI: neighbors never opposed Catfish OPENING. Opposed the late night closing hours and were concerned about having a rowdy bar so close-by.
Now, the neighbors will have to live with smokers and loud mouths under their windows from 11am to 2am, plus the usual after hours hanging out.

When I start going out in Brooklyn bars, 10 years ago, if I was loud outside someone from the staff will address me firmly: quiet or get out of here.
Now it seems it's the other way, neighbors shut up or move. With the blessings of Community Boards.

I wish that Catfish owners and staff will be more old school about this, otherwise neighbors will suffer and complaints will follow. Not to mention that they might feel betrayed by CB8.


Cheers!

I wish that Catfish owners and staff will be more old school about this

They are.  These are NIMBY extremists who do not want any bars or restaurants on Bedford.