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265 Rogers (at Carroll) to become a shelter - Page 2 — Brooklynian

265 Rogers (at Carroll) to become a shelter

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  • In the grand scheme of things -- and barring cataclysmic economic disaster, bordering on apocalypse or military invasion -- the Bergen Street shelter is just a blip on the radar for the growing affluence of neighborhoods like Crown Heights and Lefferts. The rich in Brooklyn Heights, Carroll Gardens and Park Slope have downzoned and landmarked themselves into time capsules. Commute from outside the city are horrendous, meaning people will want to live in the City, marginally or truly closer to work. The Middle/Upper Middle Bougie class will continue pushing into Crown Heights. In 10-15 years, the shelter operators and halfway houses will lose their leases and sell to bougies or developers. This is just a temporary setback -- if at all. When the $900,000 brownstones next to the Bergen House shelter come on the market (ha ha!), I'm sure there will be eagle-eyed people waiting to pounce, and happy to put up with a shelter for a bit.  
  • And who knows. De Blasio may just do horribly and not get re-elected and maybe the next mayor will try to challenge Callahan. Then we get a massive street homelessness problem to deal with, which make the shelter system look fantastic by comparison.
  • Mayors far smarter (?) than DeBlasio have challenged Callahan and each has lost.
  • I wouldn't worry about property values. 1319 Bedford Avenue, a 4-story townhouse directly across the street from the Bedford-Atlantic shelter sold for $1.7 million back in 2014. And 1176 Dean Street, which is two blocks away from both the Bedford-Atlantic Shelter and the new Bergen Street shelter is currently on the market asking $2 million: http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20147109/1176-Dean-St-Brooklyn-NY/

  • ....how does Crown Heights get away from this vicious cycle?  How can we woo the powerful and affluent if on every other block we have shelters, methadone clinics, halfway houses, etc.  The powerful and affluent will remain in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, etc. because they don't want these facilities as "their" neighbors.  Due to their affluence and power, they have that option.
    You 'woo' the powerful and affluent by having available housing for them. When the city or state owns and/or subsidizes facilities (like housing, shelters, etc.) they stifle the market and therefore the ability for others to move in.
  • Would be nice if the City bought the Bergen Street Shelter and made it into an amazing library with deeply affordable housing component. 
  • The soon-to-be Bergen Shelter was previously an addiction treatment center.

    It isn't clear to me it will be better or worse in terms of surrounding property values.
  • whynot_31 said:
    The soon-to-be Bergen Shelter was previously an addiction treatment center. It isn't clear to me it will be better or worse in terms of surrounding property values.
    It was an AA/NA Center for less than two years.  The clients were not homeless.  They seemed like productive members of society and they did not live there! 
  • It will now be a shelter for men older than 62.

    Seems like a fair trade.
  • Update:   This building won't be used.   The much larger new building across the street will be 

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