dog poop
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doctorj wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]men in brooklyn?
Don't tell me ladies wouldn't do that just as often if it were a little more convenient; I've seen them on occasion.
I was on the way to a party last friday night with Candicissima and we walked by the tail end of the OUT 100 party. we saw a guy holding two grab bags blocking the view of his buddy taking a piss against the side of the building across from the event. nasty.
the gross factor was pretty high in that the venue was right there - was it so difficult to actually not leave the building before taking a piss?
for the record, I've never pissed on the street or sidewalk.
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laura wrote: Those were no ladies, then, sir!
laura wrote: Were those females that you've seen drunk, by any chance?
Typically, yes. Sober people, men and women, tend to be more discreet when pissing in public, thus less likely to be seen. And clearly the combination of 1) extra liquid 2) diuresis and 3) frontal lobe inhibition brought on by alcohol is a potent one. But last time I checked, being drunk was no excuse for antisocial behavior. -
xueling wrote:
I'm glad you brought this up. People do this a lot and I always wonder if they also explain to their kids that they shouldn't be afraid of dogs for the most part, to use their judgement, etc. I know you can't trust all dogs, but I have met adults who are STILL afraid of dogs (tiny or huge) because their parents just steered them away from every dog they saw. Does anyone realize that if you're nervous/afraid the dog is more likely to be nervous/afraid and therefore ready to defend themselves?
Also a side-note to dog owners: please do not get offended when I steer my stroller clear of you and your dog. Even friendly dogs can scare or hurt a little child when they jump up to say hi.
Actually, I had a great experience on Halloween night while walking one of my dogs. I was very impressed with the parents who had taken the time to teach their children how to come and ask me if they could pet my dog. Foxy loved this as did I. One parent even thanked me for stopping for a minute and letting the kids pet him! I finally felt like I wasn't the evil dog owner enemy--that vibe really stresses me out. And don't forget kids are smart--they will understand if you explain these things. -
caaahyoko wrote: I know you can't trust all dogs, but I have met adults who are STILL afraid of dogs (tiny or huge) because their parents just steered them away from every dog they saw. Does anyone realize that if you're nervous/afraid the dog is more likely to be nervous/afraid and therefore ready to defend themselves?
This is right on the money. I was afraid of dogs as an adult until a dog-owner explained this to me. And that the dog is more likely to flee if the adult makes like it wants to fight, as it knows who's bigger. So any dog that bothers me will be met with aggression, not fear. This détente is working for me so far. -
The dog/kid thing goes both ways. It makes me sad to see adults and children who are clearly terrified of dogs. I am always happy to make a dog available for petting by children. But -- ask first. One of my dogs is a total marshmallow and is quite happy to have toddlers pull and poke at him. The other dog is getting nervous around little kids as he gets older. I highly doubt he would bite anyone, but why take a chance?
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doctorj wrote:
lol! Well, I actually meant that's its better to approach dogs with calm confidence, but whatever.
This is right on the money. I was afraid of dogs as an adult until a dog-owner explained this to me. And that the dog is more likely to flee if the adult makes like it wants to fight, as it knows who's bigger. So any dog that bothers me will be met with aggression, not fear. This détente is working for me so far.
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caaahyoko wrote: [quote=xueling]
I'm glad you brought this up. People do this a lot and I always wonder if they also explain to their kids that they shouldn't be afraid of dogs for the most part, to use their judgement, etc. I know you can't trust all dogs, but I have met adults who are STILL afraid of dogs (tiny or huge) because their parents just steered them away from every dog they saw. Does anyone realize that if you're nervous/afraid the dog is more likely to be nervous/afraid and therefore ready to defend themselves?
Also a side-note to dog owners: please do not get offended when I steer my stroller clear of you and your dog. Even friendly dogs can scare or hurt a little child when they jump up to say hi.
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Yeah, I'm admittedly a bit scared of dogs so I'm probably more paranoid than I should be. When I'm walking with my toddler, however, and we see neighbors walking their dogs I do go up and say hi and show my daughter how to let the dog sniff her hand first etc. Usually I pick my daughter up so she can just see the dog first and if she wants to get down then she pets them. My original post was more about when I am pushing her in a stroller and basically her face is at eye level with the dogs we pass that I gently steer away a bit (I don't pull a U-turn like a maniac or anything) and it is not noticable by my daughter at all. I just see some owners roll their eyes a bit sometimes. My point was that I don't do that b/c I think all dogs are aggressive or dangerous. Just that kids are pretty vulnerable at that height and you never know what a dog will do. -
xueling wrote:
Cool. Sounds like you have the right idea. I am amazed at how violently some people yank their kids to the other side of the sidewalk. And of course I do admit that I gently steer away from strollers as they tend to nip at my ankles as well
Yeah, I'm admittedly a bit scared of dogs so I'm probably more paranoid than I should be. When I'm walking with my toddler, however, and we see neighbors walking their dogs I do go up and say hi and show my daughter how to let the dog sniff her hand first etc. Usually I pick my daughter up so she can just see the dog first and if she wants to get down then she pets them. My original post was more about when I am pushing her in a stroller and basically her face is at eye level with the dogs we pass that I gently steer away a bit (I don't pull a U-turn like a maniac or anything) and it is not noticable by my daughter at all. I just see some owners roll their eyes a bit sometimes. My point was that I don't do that b/c I think all dogs are aggressive or dangerous. Just that kids are pretty vulnerable at that height and you never know what a dog will do.
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Rose wrote: The dog/kid thing goes both ways. It makes me sad to see adults and children who are clearly terrified of dogs. I am always happy to make a dog available for petting by children. But -- ask first. One of my dogs is a total marshmallow and is quite happy to have toddlers pull and poke at him. The other dog is getting nervous around little kids as he gets older. I highly doubt he would bite anyone, but why take a chance?
Lol, somewhere there is a happy medium between scared and poking. -
friendlypitbull wrote: BTW - you dont 'own' the tree pits
But the dog owners do?As for it being disgusting to garden - I think the pee is clean compared to the rats and other vermon that scamper from tree pit to tree pit when the sun goes down.
So, then let's see you let your dog piss all over your hands, if it's so clean. Sitting where a rat may have walked is WAY WAY less gross than sitting in a puddle of dog piss. Plus, the smell of piss lingers, does the smell of rats? -
Carnivore wrote: If you don't think it's a big deal, you can always let your dog relieve itself in your own tree pit.
I do almost everyday. plants look great!kosherdave wrote: Sitting where a rat may have walked is WAY WAY less gross than sitting in a puddle of dog piss. Plus, the smell of piss lingers, does the smell of rats?
Why would you be sitting in a tree pit??? [right after a dog pissed on it, no less]
Do you think rats clean up their piss and feces??
As for the odor - (not that I ever smell dog piss walking down the streets of Brooklyn but) do you really think that 6in further into the street would make any difference regarding smell?
Are you aware that in Prospect Park hundreds of dogs are running jumping and pissing during the 'off-leash' hours and the lawn looks fine and there is no odor? -
friendlypitbull wrote: [quote=Carnivore]If you don't think it's a big deal, you can always let your dog relieve itself in your own tree pit.
I do almost everyday. plants look great!kosherdave wrote: Sitting where a rat may have walked is WAY WAY less gross than sitting in a puddle of dog piss. Plus, the smell of piss lingers, does the smell of rats?
Why would you be sitting in a tree pit??? [right after a dog pissed on it, no less]
Do you think rats clean up their piss and feces??
As for the odor - (not that I ever smell dog piss walking down the streets of Brooklyn but) do you really think that 6in further into the street would make any difference regarding smell?
Are you aware that in Prospect Park hundreds of dogs are running jumping and pissing during the 'off-leash' hours and the lawn looks fine and there is no odor?
My point is that piss is nastier than a rat walking around. And yeah, as far as pissing in the street, that will go away, there are street cleaners you know, but not on the sidewalk... -
friendlypitbull wrote:
I just looked at my package of Miracle Grow...the main ingredient is Urea. haha!
Are you aware that in Prospect Park hundreds of dogs are running jumping and pissing during the 'off-leash' hours and the lawn looks fine and there is no odor?
Its not urine, per se that is bad, its the quantity. Just like when using too much plant food, you can get nitrogen burn on the plants. But you're right, pee is not inherently bad for plants. Hell, we pissed on plants for thousands of years before there were toilets. -
kosherdave wrote:
Um...rain?
My point is that piss is nastier than a rat walking around. And yeah, as far as pissing in the street, that will go away, there are street cleaners you know, but not on the sidewalk... -
perhaps i am really missing something here, but i still don't really understand why people think it's perfectly ok to let dogs relieve themselves on my property. or on the sidewalk for others to step in.
the sidewalk is not your toilet, it doesn't get any clearer than that. -
caaahyoko wrote: [quote=kosherdave]
Um...rain?
My point is that piss is nastier than a rat walking around. And yeah, as far as pissing in the street, that will go away, there are street cleaners you know, but not on the sidewalk...
So, I take it you just can't smell the piss everyone is talking about? And yeah, it rained a lot recently, but it does not rain every day or even every week for that matter. -
i say if you ever find a dog owner who doesnt pick up after their dogs. go follow them home and leave them a brown nugget of a gift.
also if you find folks who let their dogs pee on bikes/motor cycles/etc... follow them home and make sure you wet their doors. -
kosherdave wrote:
Honestly, the only time I smell pee is down in the subway and in really busy areas like Times Square/East Village. I may have smelled the pee in residential areas at one time, but like with noisy trains and people walking around loudly in the apartment above me, I have become desensitized.
So, I take it you just can't smell the piss everyone is talking about? And yeah, it rained a lot recently, but it does not rain every day or even every week for that matter.
Actually, I think people here (nyc) are generally more considerate than out in bum-fuck nowhere where I used to live. NO ONE picks up poo out there. And believe you me all the dogs go on your lawn. Its just the sheer number of people here that makes it seem like no one cares. If no one cared we'd be up to our elbows in cholora by now.
The odds are that everyone will forget a bag or their dog will pee on your shit now at some point. There are just so many freakin people here that it seems like no body cares. But we do. I'm sure the people at the recycling plant are complaining about no one knowing how to sort their recyclables, but it, again, just seems that way because there will always be a certain number of people who put the wrong type of plastic container in with their pickup on any given day. -
I don't often notice the smell of dog pee (kitty pee is another matter, and rain and humidity seem to actually make it stronger), but the smell of dog poo, oy. I could never have a dog myself because the smell makes me want to retch immediately. Whenever I see fresh poo on the sidewalk or pass a dog doing his business I have to hold my breath for a while.
But anyway, I don't get the whole defense of being gross and inconsiderate, especially the dubious argument that because there are supposedly worse things than dog pee or poo, it's fine to have it all over the place. Or that because sanitation workers handle garbage bags, it's perfectly fine to make their job even worse. Hey, if the poor buggers don't like it they can get another job.
Sheesh. ARE WE NOT MEN? -
laura wrote: But anyway, I don't get the whole defense of being gross and inconsiderate, especially the dubious argument that because there are supposedly worse things than dog pee or poo, it's fine to have it all over the place. Or that because sanitation workers handle garbage bags, it's perfectly fine to make their job even worse.
Next time they pick up my garbage, I'm going to fling my crap at them, like a monkey. Why should they care? It's a dirty job regardless! -
friendlypitbull wrote: [quote=WhyFi] it's that it's inconsiderate to the sanitation workers that have to pick them up - how is that hard to grasp?
Actually very hard - considering that they are picking up dirty rat infested garbage either way. Next thing your going to tell me is to not put dog poop in the public garbage cans b/c the sanitation workers have to empty them.
Have some respect for the sanitation workers. There's no need to make their job any less pleasant. -
kosherdave wrote: [quote=friendlypitbull][quote=Carnivore]If you don't think it's a big deal, you can always let your dog relieve itself in your own tree pit.
I do almost everyday. plants look great!kosherdave wrote: Sitting where a rat may have walked is WAY WAY less gross than sitting in a puddle of dog piss. Plus, the smell of piss lingers, does the smell of rats?
Why would you be sitting in a tree pit??? [right after a dog pissed on it, no less]
Do you think rats clean up their piss and feces??
As for the odor - (not that I ever smell dog piss walking down the streets of Brooklyn but) do you really think that 6in further into the street would make any difference regarding smell?
Are you aware that in Prospect Park hundreds of dogs are running jumping and pissing during the 'off-leash' hours and the lawn looks fine and there is no odor?
My point is that piss is nastier than a rat walking around. And yeah, as far as pissing in the street, that will go away, there are street cleaners you know, but not on the sidewalk...
After reading this thread, I'd prefer a pet rat. Rats' poop is smaller than dogs' poop and you only have to bring rats' poop out to the garbage twice a week rather than twice a day.
A potty trained cat would be another option. -
sarajean8 wrote: I spent some time living in France, and even though we have our dog poop problem in NYC, it doesn't compare to the one existing over there.
That's true, they seem to love their little dogs but are above picking up ze poop. They also have the best sanitation trucks. -
raw wrote: After reading this thread, I'd prefer a pet rat.
I had a couple of pet rats once. And then a guinea pig. Then cats. I can't do the whole dog-walking thing. -
laura wrote: [quote=raw]After reading this thread, I'd prefer a pet rat.
I had a couple of pet rats once. And then a guinea pig. Then cats. I can't do the whole dog-walking thing.
How dare friendlypitbull attack rats with discriminatory phrases like, "dirty rat infested garbage." How would friendlypitbull feel if we called friendlypitbull a DIRTY DOG, who proudly pisses in public (perhaps on vespas too)? -
laura wrote: [quote=raw]After reading this thread, I'd prefer a pet rat.
I had a couple of pet rats once. And then a guinea pig. Then cats. I can't do the whole dog-walking thing.
I kept pet rocks. They were very clean, and unlike several other species of pets we tried, didn't die prematurely. Also most suitable for an urban environment, easy to shift house or fly with, and low food and vet bills. This was in the days before Tamagotchis. -
I had Sea Monkeys for a while too.
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caaahyoko wrote:
That I can agree with. I'm not saying everyone here is bad, it's just with so many people, a few bad ones add up quickly. And where I am from, people don't clean up with dog crap either. Nor do they in france and when I've visited (as was pointed out by someone earlier) it is like avoiding land minds.
Actually, I think people here (nyc) are generally more considerate than out in bum-fuck nowhere where I used to live. NO ONE picks up poo out there. And believe you me all the dogs go on your lawn. Its just the sheer number of people here that makes it seem like no one cares. If no one cared we'd be up to our elbows in cholora by now.
I just want to keep NYC this way and if it can be even cleaner, great! Which means some people need to curb their dogs in better places and everyone should remember a baggie! -
kosherdave wrote: And where I am from, people don't clean up with dog crap either. Nor do they in france...
Nor, according to Mr. Mojo Nixon, do they in Amsterdam:
http://www.emusic.com/album/10852/10852439.html -
You know, if you freeze it, you can pick it up more easily.
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