A pitch for VSpot (100% vegan restaurant in Park Slope)
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V-spot could use improvement--but based on FOODSWINGS?!! I still can't get over how a Vegan place doesn't have a juicer.
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Wow, I'm shocked to hear V-spot sucks so bad. That's too bad. I have not eaten there yet but have been meaning too. Still, I'll give it a try, but I guess I should not expect fireworks! I've been a vegetarian for more than a decade now, and I have to say, it's really not that hard to find veg friendly food, so if a place like V-spot sucks, I doubt it will last too long.
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alafairnadia wrote: [quote=8thandPrez]off topic, but i always thought you were hitting a bong in your photo... :oops:
I've heard crack pipe. how come youdidn't think that????
but yeah. it's totally me makin' sweet love to some bubble tea.
Hmm, I always imagined you had just taken a hefty puff off of some stogie. Looks like smoke, but now I can see that it's bubble tea and a straw. funny shit! -
I did go back about three weeks ago. They do nothing above what I can do at home with some frozen Quorn stuff from Key Food besides the desserts they bring in, which still aren't anywhere near what I can get somewhere like Babycakes in the LES.
It's a shame....this neighborhood would totally get behind a quality vegetarian place. V-Spot just comes off as lazy and overpriced. -
J0518 wrote: I did go back about three weeks ago. They do nothing above what I can do at home with some frozen Quorn stuff from Key Food besides the desserts they bring in, which still aren't anywhere near what I can get somewhere like Babycakes in the LES.
Well put. You summed it up.
It's a shame....this neighborhood would totally get behind a quality vegetarian place. V-Spot just comes off as lazy and overpriced. -
Subject: RED BAMBOO BROOKLYN
Have any of you tried the Reb Bamboo in brooklyn? (www.redbamboobrooklyn.com) Holy Awesome. They just added a whole lot of non-fake-meat items to their menu and they just started daily specials. I had a black-bean feijoda (brazilian specialty) with a Mushroom Ceviche. My girlfriend had the Fried Yuca and Plantains, chimichurri sauce was superb Her entry was a Thai coconut Curry Pasta with assorted asain vegetables like baby bok choy! DELICIOUS. I am so happy that Red Bamboo, even though famous for their fake meats, is trying to add more vegetable and grain friendly options. ALSO heard they are adding organic items to their menu come February. Not Park Slope but still close! I'd say the best vegetarian restaurant in BROOKLYN. -
hmmmm
I've only heard bummed out reviews of Red Bamboo lately.
Anyone else been? The above Guest review sounds like PR. :evil:
I hate PR. I like delicious vegetarian food. -
cheflady wrote: I agree!!
Totally agree. You'd be WAY better off with a nice grass-fed, organic ribeye steak.
Isn't a main advantage of a vegan and vegetarian diet for health reasons (for ourselves, animals and the planet)? I don't understand the mock meats....all they are are processed foods made in a factory just like any other junk food. Why spare yourself killing an animal but yet eat factory food? It doesn't make sense to me.
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There is a vegetarian potluck group that meets once a month - deeelicious!
http://bluenotefoods.com/potluck.html
Also, there's an Eco-Eatery Tour: http://bluenotefoods.com/Eco_Events.html -
mypasswordwontwork wrote: [quote=cheflady]I agree!!
Totally agree. You'd be WAY better off with a nice grass-fed, organic ribeye steak.
Isn't a main advantage of a vegan and vegetarian diet for health reasons (for ourselves, animals and the planet)? I don't understand the mock meats....all they are are processed foods made in a factory just like any other junk food. Why spare yourself killing an animal but yet eat factory food? It doesn't make sense to me.
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Actually, the mock meats, most of which are seitan, are not exactly "junk food." True, they're processed food, but almost all of the seitan I've ever seen is organic and the ingredients are pretty simple:
Water, Wheat Gluten, Soy Sauce (Water, Soybeans, Wheat, Salt), Garbanzo Bean Flour, Soy Flour, Ginger Oil, Aquaresin Garlic
In addition, a hunk of seitan has a lot less calories and fat than an equivalent piece of real meat. -
Most mock meat indeed is NOT seitan. Seitan is simply wheat gluten, nothing else. It is a pure food that I would highly reccommend as a meat substitute. Mock meats in restaurants are generally made with soy protein isolate which is not a whole food, has been processed at high temperatures and denatured. Seitan is easily made at home with high-gluten bread flour and water. If a restaurant sells seitan they will say "seitan", and if they are selling "mock duck" it is not seitan. They are not interchangeable words. And I concur that seitan is not junk food. Mock meats are.
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Chef - I agree that some of the mock meat products contain soy protein isolate. But a lot of them are seitan or gluten, or texturized vegetable protein, defatted soy flour, or the like. I'll grant you that some of these are highly processed, but I still don't think it takes them into the category of junk food. A processed soy product typically has a lower fat content and higher protein content than standard soy, so some would say it has improved nutrition. If your goal is to avoid all processed food, I can understand staying away from some mock meats... but if your goal is eating healthier, I'd say that mock meats, if prepared properly, can be a better choice than real meat.
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Hungry Hippo -
Good feedback you offer. I myself eat and prepare for clients no processed foods (exceptions may include prepared stocks, corn chips, tortillas and the like). I suppose my calling them "junk food" is my own category and others may disagree. I'm OK with that. I have lots of research/information on any of the processed foods if anyone is interested.
Cheers! -
8thandPrez wrote: ...I'd say that mock meats, if prepared properly, can be a better choice than real meat.
...except with regard to taste! :twisted: :P :twisted: -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=8thandPrez]...I'd say that mock meats, if prepared properly, can be a better choice than real meat.
...except with regard to taste! :twisted: :P :twisted:
Maybe for you... personally, seitan is one of my favorite foods. I'd take it over any meat any day. -
So I have a question for the vegan-restaurant contingent....
I was walking by V-Spot the other day and saw on their chalkboard -- I'm pretty sure I read this right, I did double check -- that the lunch special was "Latin Style" Beans and Rice...for $10.
Does having food that should be cheap (like beans and rice without even any ham stock, I presume) cost a lot make it seem more substantial in some way? or is there some reason it should cost more that I am overlooking?
(and yes, of course I am aware that the same questions could be asked of almost any eating establishment that is not a cheap diner. but this seemed an extreme example.) -
8thandPrez wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=8thandPrez]...I'd say that mock meats, if prepared properly, can be a better choice than real meat.
...except with regard to taste! :twisted: :P :twisted:
Maybe for you... personally, seitan is one of my favorite foods. I'd take it over any meat any day.
DELICIOUS SEITAN ALERT!
(yeah, that's what I said)
at the place on Atlantic Ave and 3rd Ave, "STIR IT UP"
here's the Times review
the vegi-chicken I had today was excellent super tender seitan
AND she delivers to the North Slope (at the least, since she seemed super amenable) $20 minimum, AND she said to call before you're starving -- advance time required... -
Seitan is my protein concentrate of choice - definately! I love to grind it in the food processor and it makes "ground beef" for tacos and stuff.
I was walking by V-Spot the other day and saw on their chalkboard -- I'm pretty sure I read this right, I did double check -- that the lunch special was "Latin Style" Beans and Rice...for $10.
Maybe - just maybe it had safron in it, which is the priciest spice in the world (if I'm mistaken, I'm sure someone will point it out). But I agree - it bothers me when a restaurant jacks up the price on something you KNOW costs next to nothing. A fine ex: Grimaldi's and their $12 cheese pizza.
Does having food that should be cheap (like beans and rice without even any ham stock, I presume) cost a lot make it seem more substantial in some way? or is there some reason it should cost more that I am overlooking? -
cheflady wrote: Hungry Hippo -
I think it's funny that 8thandPrez has better info on "mock meat" than cheflady . . .
Good feedback you offer. I myself eat and prepare for clients no processed foods (exceptions may include prepared stocks, corn chips, tortillas and the like). I suppose my calling them "junk food" is my own category and others may disagree. I'm OK with that. I have lots of research/information on any of the processed foods if anyone is interested.
Cheers!
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Mock duck = tofu skin = delicious -
How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
What I hate most about this forum is that everyone seems to attack everyone else. I thought it was a discussion board. -
cheflady wrote: Most mock meat indeed is NOT seitan. Seitan is simply wheat gluten, nothing else. It is a pure food that I would highly reccommend as a meat substitute. Mock meats in restaurants are generally made with soy protein isolate which is not a whole food, has been processed at high temperatures and denatured. Seitan is easily made at home with high-gluten bread flour and water. If a restaurant sells seitan they will say "seitan", and if they are selling "mock duck" it is not seitan. They are not interchangeable words. And I concur that seitan is not junk food. Mock meats are.
I LOVE seitan AND mock meats. I purchase my wheat gluten, seitan, and mock meats from Chinatown in Manhattan. I read all labels and know what I buy. Even the mock meats, regardless of what they are made of, are chock full of protein and contain little fat. If you are a strict vegetarian, mock meats can be an excellent, low-fat, source of protein. -
cheflady wrote: How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
You went off against mock meat. 8thandPrez corrected you.
What I hate most about this forum is that everyone seems to attack everyone else. I thought it was a discussion board.
And yes, it *is* a discussion board. Not a drum-up business board.
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cheflady wrote: How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
I felt defensive when you attacked mock meat, by calling it junk food, but I'll live and so will my fake, processed duck.
What I hate most about this forum is that everyone seems to attack everyone else. I thought it was a discussion board. -
pitu wrote: [quote=cheflady]How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
You went off against mock meat. 8thandPrez corrected you.
What I hate most about this forum is that everyone seems to attack everyone else. I thought it was a discussion board.
And yes, it *is* a discussion board. Not a drum-up business board.
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Good point. I was wondering if Cheflady does not reccommend mock meat because she does not create and sell products that contain it.
Still, Cheflady deserves some respect -- at least she comes on here openly and lets us know who she is and what she does.
As a big fan of mock meat, I must defend it. I buy brands that have a lot of protein, some vitamin b12, and lack saturdated fats. Yes, most mock meats are processed -- unlike the wheat gluten -- but I could care less. While I don't eat Doritos chips or Campbells soup, mock meat is my one processed indulgences. -
Subject: On your mark, get set, go!
cheflady wrote: How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
Forget the Seitan Battle. Cythren needs some help with a ginger bread house ASAP. Anyone know of a local meringue powder dealer?
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31754 -
I attended a highly respected culinary school where a large focus of the curriculum is about how processed foods are made and the health issues related. That's all I'm trying to share with you guys - what I know. When a thread is about vegan dining and I happen to be a vegan chef, then I'm going to respond. Give it up on the "drum-up business" hang-up. Perhaps I'm here to talk to my neighbors. But no more.
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cheflady wrote: I attended a highly respected culinary school where a large focus of the curriculum is about how processed foods are made and the health issues related. That's all I'm trying to share with you guys - what I know. When a thread is about vegan dining and I happen to be a vegan chef, then I'm going to respond. Give it up on the "drum-up business" hang-up.
Well, good for you. Too bad you didn't learn the finer points of mock meats. We expect better of the culinary-educated vegan chef who touts her credentials at every opportunity.raw wrote:
amen to that.
Good point. I was wondering if Cheflady does not reccommend mock meat because she does not create and sell products that contain it.cheflady wrote: Perhaps I'm here to talk to my neighbors. But no more.
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all we ask is that if you are writing an endless advert for yourself, you post it in the Classifieds section -
Anonymous wrote: [quote=cheflady]How is it that 8thandPrez has better info than me? And who said I was in a competition to find the best info??
I felt defensive when you attacked mock meat, by calling it junk food, but I'll live and so will my fake, processed duck.
What I hate most about this forum is that everyone seems to attack everyone else. I thought it was a discussion board.
Ok, I'm a little weirded out by this. First off, I got no bones with Cheflady - she knows her stuff and I'm down with her commitment to cooking and eating well. Second, some yahoo, posting as Guest, is pretending to be me. Do not listen to Guest. -
8thandPrez, I think that Anon was this same Anon, which is obviously not you.
Anonymous wrote: [quote=cheflady]Most mock meat indeed is NOT seitan. Seitan is simply wheat gluten, nothing else. It is a pure food that I would highly reccommend as a meat substitute. Mock meats in restaurants are generally made with soy protein isolate which is not a whole food, has been processed at high temperatures and denatured. Seitan is easily made at home with high-gluten bread flour and water. If a restaurant sells seitan they will say "seitan", and if they are selling "mock duck" it is not seitan. They are not interchangeable words. And I concur that seitan is not junk food. Mock meats are.
I LOVE seitan AND mock meats. I purchase my wheat gluten, seitan, and mock meats from Chinatown in Manhattan. I read all labels and know what I buy. Even the mock meats, regardless of what they are made of, are chock full of protein and contain little fat. If you are a strict vegetarian, mock meats can be an excellent, low-fat, source of protein. -
Can we go back to slamming crappy vegan eateries please? I thought this was a discussion board?
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