77th precinct police community council meeting

Det. Mclean=ParadeRest? :-k

Make sure to ask about the recent Black Panther activity on Kingston Avenue. The last few nights the Black Panthers with blood and crip gang members have been meeting at a "wellness center". The first night there was a near riot situation on the street and last night there was a "listening party" and open mic night at the wellness center in which the Panthers openly invited all neighborhood gang members in the hope of "uniting" the opposing forces.

You can't make this stuff up.

neene wrote: so
not only do we have a new commanding officer and one new captain
but
Det. Raton has left as well, leaving us with 1 community affairs officer: Det. Mclean

we have a huge precinct, and even with 2 CA officers, i found it hard to make contact

it is up to Deputy Inspector Cosgrove whether or not to assign a replacement for Raton,
I think this would be an important meeting to attend to voice our concerns...

There was a third CA officer introduced about three months ago. I just don't remember his name. He'll probably be at the 77th Pct. Council meeting tonight though.

I'll be there.

alafairnadia wrote: how was the meeting? anyone have a report? oh wait, it just started. sorry, I'm in pretend time in the pit of hell (aka downtown wilmington delaware)

That is TEH HORRIBAL!!!

pitu wrote: and you would prefer that they *not* talk to gang members? or...what?

I think he questions the ultimate goal of uniting them...

neene wrote: @ tootsie: the meeting is at 7:30 (my original post was at 6:35 am, maybe that is the confusion)

@ paraderest: why don't you come to the meeting and ask yourself?

just for the record, i brought up the new black panther party about 3 months ago at a community board 8 police committee meeting because they were leafletting on my block and both Jesse Hamilton and Det Raton looked at me as if I had two heads...

Because I work nights and can't attend these meetings. Is that okay with you?

The 'New' Black Panthers and their Rhetoric
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The Panther’s Roar
A new black-power group with an old name.

By Geoffrey Gray
New York Magazine
December 18, 2006

In the wake of the police killing of unarmed bridegroom Sean Bell, the New Black Panther Party is trying to make its presence felt in Queens. Don’t expect leader-lawyer Malik Zulu Shabazz at Park Avenue radical-chic cocktail parties. “Years have proven that some alliances just don’t work,” Shabazz (real name: Paris Lewis) says of the old Panthers’ efforts to enlist whites to their cause. But the New Black Panthers aren’t really Black Panthers at all, the old Panthers say. According to a letter from the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, the New Panthers are “angry young militants full of fury” who have stolen the Panther name. Al Sharpton isn’t taking the group seriously either, insulting one of their rallies in the Daily News. “Recklessness will only make it look like Sean Bell and his friends were reckless and deserved what they got,” Sharpton said, noting the Bell family’s repeated requests for calm. But Shabazz doesn’t really care. “Sharpton’s tactics are far too nice for myself and many in the streets,” Shabazz says. “In a time of war, when the police are attacking and raiding homes and shooting black men and the people are frustrated, I wouldn’t have run right to the mayor for a public-relations opportunity When you’re at war, you don’t immediately negotiate with the opposition.” At a recent rally, Shabazz organized gang members from the Bloods and Crips and had them point at police and shout, “Fifty shots for 50 cops.” There were signs saying death to the pigs who kill our kids. So far, he claims to have 5,000 members around the country—about the same number as the Black Panthers had in the late sixties. In response to Shabazz’s rhetoric, the Anti-Defamation League is calling the Panthers “the largest organized anti-Semitic black militant group in America.” (Shabazz says he’s “anti-Zionist.”) The group is initiating a boycott against non-black-owned businesses during the holidays, and is planning more anti-cop rallies. “We have to go further than we’ve gone after previous police shootings,”he says. “Clearly, there is a large swath of territory that is open to those who are uncompromising.”

neene wrote: and paraderest,
would you call the community affairs office (718-735-0634) and report what you know about the meetings and their location?
there was a genuine interest in that,
(or pm me and i'll do it)

and did i get any more info about the trees
no, not really
conversations with nypd often seem to be like that to me
but
did i get the impression that the precinct knows that this is a concern of the community?
yes
and that is half the battle

Any information that I might have will certainly not be given to Community Affairs who are absolutely useless in this matter other than to deny that there are any problems or tell us that they'll look into it. My info is given to those in the precinct and out that can actually do something with the info. What is Ratton or Mclean going to do? Their purpose is to address the needs and concerns of the residents and to give out information that may help the public. Legitimate info regarding illegal activity should instead be sent to Special Operations or the Squad. I have no use for Community Affairs, sorry.

I suggested that the topic be raised because I think that it's an important issue and the people who live in the area may not be aware that the Black Panthers are setting up shop on Kingston Avenue. I find it troublesome that the Panthers are urging opposing gangs to gather together. The flyer that they sent out actually gave travel directions so I'm assuming that they are trying to gather gang members from other areas in our community. I don't see anything good coming out of this.

After reading that the meeting had alot of children present being honored by the community, I agree that it was not the perfect forum for a more in depth discussion about the gang problem. Better luck next time. Hopefully I'll be off.

Heres a webpage for one of the organizers of the Blood/Crip and New black Panthers party. www.myspace.com/supanovaslomonline