needing a new management company
for our 8-unit building.
ours is so bad it's alomost laughable. been trying to find a new one but as it stands we're paying @600 per month for their services, including cleaning/garbage, and they screw up everything. you can't even imagine.
but, we only have 5 units that are owned by us (we own the rest, but they still have long-term tenants)... andy any fee would have to be split by 5 people... which rules out any good companies, like brownstone management or goldin.
ideas?
ours is so bad it's alomost laughable. been trying to find a new one but as it stands we're paying @600 per month for their services, including cleaning/garbage, and they screw up everything. you can't even imagine.
but, we only have 5 units that are owned by us (we own the rest, but they still have long-term tenants)... andy any fee would have to be split by 5 people... which rules out any good companies, like brownstone management or goldin.
ideas?
Comments
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Stay away from Esquire Management. They are worse than useless.
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Don't lose any sleep over not being able to hire Goldin.
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Bump! Anyone have anything to say about Brownstone Management? (URL provided for clarity, not advertising.) We're trying to get rid of Goldin, but don't want to jump from the frying pan into the fire.
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Goldin is horrible
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burgess is, hands down, as bad as it can get.
collectively... how bad are they???? they paid an incorrect 7K con-ed bill, they tried to evict our rent stablilized rent subsidized mentally ill tenant without informing us and got us sued, they paid for our new carpeting TWICE. the list goes on and on... -
I don't want to go into what's wrong with Goldin specifically, but it's been very hit or miss. They seem to go through employees really quickly, and we've had one good manager, some mediocre ones, and now a bad one. That seems to have unearthed some other problems with them.
Anyway, I think we're about to go with Brownstone, just wanted to know if anyone had any reasons why that's a bad idea. -
Subject: Don't go with Brownstone use www.nycpropertycare.com
hi there,
Brownstone is expensive & well in my building kind of slow getting back to us, and super slow in working for you when they charge by the hour.
They also leave garbled voice mail messages when they do call you back ( its from a handyman that works for them - often forgets to tell you who he is!)
So if you like being overcharged, playing detective with voice mails and hearing them 3-4 times to hear what he is saying or perhaps catch his phone number if he leaves it--Brownstone is for you!
However,
they had a great, serious guy who worked for them and got stuff done, quickly and he is very smart. His name is Derek Bupp and like many good employees, he took off and started his own company this past Fall.
His info is below:
Derek Bupp
Main: 718-422-1070
Mobile: 718-514-5728
Fax: 866-903-8599
www.nycpropertycare.com -
To respond to the last post and this thread in general - I am the owner of the company mentioned in the 12/14 11:09 post and did not post the comments although I welcome the positive feedback. I have had some contact with Goldin and Brownstone and like most management companies they offer similar services but have different strengths. Maybe Goldin will help get your building’s finances straightened out quickly. Perhaps Brownstone would be a good option if you are having landlord tenant problems. I’ve never heard of Burgess but they may be good at managing a large union staff. Interviewing candidates is a great way to find out what their strengths are and if they are compatible with the needs for your property. And at the risk of sounding “preachyâ€, I suggest that owners and boards clearly define their expectations and make the management co. aware of those expectations at the interview. If they take on the job and can't meet those expectations, then they aren’t doing their job and it is time to look for someone elese.
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nycpc wrote: I’ve never heard of Burgess but they may be good at managing a large union staff.
i wouldn't trust burgess to buy the correct cup of coffee -
A worked for a management co for a while managing coops and condos. It is going to be tough to find someone good and affordable. It's unclear to me by your post what your situation is, rental, coop or condo. In some ways, but but certainly not all, managing 8 units or 80 is the same amount of work. A manager has to make site visits and attend board meetings etc. For small coops and condos it is often better to self manage and get an outside bookeeping sevice.
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