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Law, Landlord and Locks, Oh My - Page 2 — Brooklynian

Law, Landlord and Locks, Oh My

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  • Thanks, again. I am useless with DIY and I don't know how to do anything. Do you know where I could find somebody to do something for my windows? Like adding a decent lock or really anything. One of my back windows leads to a fire escape. It is a third floor window but it still makes me nervous. How easy would it be to put a bar in there or some kind of "gate" (I don't know the proper names for these things)? I'm actually considering doing this as soon as tomorrow.
  • mypasswordwontwork wrote: Thanks, again. I am useless with DIY and I don't know how to do anything. Do you know where I could find somebody to do something for my windows? Like adding a decent lock or really anything. One of my back windows leads to a fire escape. It is a third floor window but it still makes me nervous. How easy would it be to put a bar in there or some kind of "gate" (I don't know the proper names for these things)? I'm actually considering doing this as soon as tomorrow.
    If you go to home depot, you'll see that there are a ton of window locking stuff that you just drill in. You can go there and pick up the packages. if you're open to it, the precinct should have a free security survey where they send an officer to your house to evaluate the weak areas and make recommendations on what to do in your location.

    You can hire a handyman to install stuff for you (make sure you hire a reputable person so that you're not exposing yourself and your apartment to exactly what you're trying to prevent :-))

    You could also call a locksmith. I believe they do more than install deadbolts and may also install window locks and stuff. I have used Miguel's Locksmith for my deadbolt, but not for anything else.

    The costs with a handyman or a locksmith for their labor will be high, so if you have a friend who is DIY capable, that's the way to go.

    This DIY site has examples of window locks:
    http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/sf_locks_security_systems/article/0,2037,DIY_14246_2579201,00.html

    window locks:
    http://www.ronhazelton.com/tips/Window_Locks.htm

    additional home safety info:
    http://www.nsc.org/pubs/fsh/archive/summr99/burglar.htm
  • alafairnadia wrote:
    also, I wouldn't give a copy of the key to your super. why lose control over that lock?
    Personally I have really benefitted from my landlord having access to my apartment. (it is also stated in my lease that he must have all keys needed to enter).

    On 3 different occasions I have needed a repair done (leaking pipe under sink, shower that wouldn't stop running hot water on full blast, and a smell of gas that made me think something might be wrong with my stove)... Because the maintenance people only work 9-5/M-F, these things have been taken care of while I am at work. I actually feel better knowing that if I can't be home and there's a problem, they can run over and take care of it. Something to consider...
  • Again, thank you Diamond. Only one of my friends is good with the DIY. Unfortunately he has a crush on me and slight stalker issues, so might not be the best choice for this. Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and pay a 'professional'?
  • mypasswordwontwork wrote: Again, thank you Diamond. Only one of my friends is good with the DIY. Unfortunately he has a crush on me and slight stalker issues, so might not be the best choice for this. Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and pay a 'professional'?
    My pleasure. Yeah, I wouldn't encourage that guy! Maybe Armchair Warrior, who has his own building, can recommend someone to help out.
  • apollonia666 wrote: Man, I wish Tenant.net weren't so godawfully disorganized and hard to search for information.

    Related question to the topic: Do any of you know whether, if your building has two external doors, landlords are required to have locks on both? My building has two outer entry doors with a small vestibule in between, and there's no lock on the outer one. I'm about to start bugging them to finally install an outer lock after the elevator incident I posted about last week on the CH board, and it would be good to know whether it's something they're supposed to have in place already.
    did you try the message boards? I have pretty good luck there -- it's divided by type of building/type of rent protection. If your question wasn't asked already, just post a thread.

    http://www.tenant.net/phpBB2/

    I found this under
    http://tenant.net/Other_Laws/MDL/mdl03.html
    NYS Multiple Dwelling Law wrote:
    Sec. 50-a. Entrances: doors, locks and intercommunication
    systems.

    1. Every entrance from the street, passageway, court, yard,
    cellar, or similar entrance to a class A multiple dwelling
    erected or converted after January first, nineteen hundred
    sixty-eight, except an entrance leading to the main entrance
    hall or lobby which main entrance hall or lobby is equipped
    with one or more automatic self-locking doors
    , shall be
    equipped with automatic self-closing and self-locking doors
    and such doors shall be locked at all times except when an
    attendant shall actually be on duty. Every entrance from the
    roof to such a dwelling shall be equipped with a self-
    closing door which shall not be self-locking and which shall
    be fastened on the inside with movable bolts, hooks or a
    lock which does not require a key to open from inside the
    dwelling.
    highlights are mine of course
    3. On or after January first, nineteen hundred sixty-nine,
    every class A multiple dwelling erected or converted prior
    to January first, nineteen hundred sixty-eight, shall be
    equipped with automatic self-closing and self-locking doors,
    which doors shall be kept locked except when an attendant
    shall actually be on duty, and with the intercommunication
    system described in paragraph two of this section, provided
    that tenants occupying a majority of all the apartments
    within the structure comprising the multiple dwelling
    affected request or consent in writing to the installation
    of such doors and intercommunication system on forms which
    shall be prescribed by the department, except that in the
    event a majority of tenants in occupancy request or consent
    on or after January first, nineteen hundred sixty-eight, to
    the installation of such doors or intercommunication system
    such installation shall be started within ninety days, but
    need not be completed until six months after the owner's
    receipt of requests or consents by a majority of the
    tenants, except that in any such multiple dwelling owned or
    operated by a municipal housing authority organized pursuant
    to article thirteen of the public housing law, such
    installation need not be completed until one year after the
    owner's receipt of requests or consents by a majority of the
    tenants. If the dwelling is subject to regulation and
    control of its residential rents pursuant to the local
    emergency housing rent control act, the local city housing
    rent agency shall upon the filing of executed forms
    containing the required requests or consents, prescribe the
    terms under which the costs of providing such doors and
    intercommunication systems may be recovered by the owner
    from the tenants. In any multiple dwelling built pursuant to
    the provisions of the redevelopment companies law in which
    residential rents are limited by contract, the costs of
    providing such doors and intercommunication systems may be
    recovered by the owner from the tenants. The terms under
    which such costs may be recovered shall be the same as those
    prescribed by the local city housing rent agency in the city
    in which the multiple dwelling is located for dwellings
    subject to regulation and control of rent pursuant to the
    local emergency housing rent control act. Such costs shall
    not be deemed to be "rent" as that term is limited and
    defined in the contract.

    4. All such self-closing and self-locking doors, and
    intercommunication systems shall be of a type approved by
    the department and by such other department as may be
    prescribed by law and shall be installed and maintained in a
    manner prescribed by the department and by such other
    department.

    5. Every owner who shall fail to install and maintain the
    equipment required by this section, in the manner prescribed
    by the department, and by such other department as may be
    prescribed by law, and any person who shall wilfully
    destroy, damage, or jam or otherwise interfere with the
    proper operation of, or remove, without justification, such
    equipment or any part thereof shall be guilty of a
    misdemeanor as provided in subdivision one of section three
    hundred four of the multiple dwelling law and shall be
    punishable as provided therein.
  • "Tenants in multiple dwellings can install and maintain their own locks on their apartment entrance doors in addition to the lock supplied by the landlord. The lock may be no more than three inches in circumference, and tenants must provide their landlord with a duplicate key upon request.

    "The landlord must provide a peephole in the entrance door of each apartment. Landlords of multiple dwellings in New York City must also install a chain-door guard on the entrance door to each apartment, so as to permit partial opening of the door. (Multiple Dwelling Law §51-c; NYC Admin. Code §27-2043"

    http://www.oag.state.ny.us/realestate/tenants_rights_guide.html

    But be careful. Do not damage the door. I know it says you have to give your landlord a key "upon request," but if you don't and there's a burst pipe or some emergency (not something life-threatening, but something property-damaging) and they can't reach you and they have to break your door to enter, you might have to pay for the new door. --E.
  • fire department will smash your lock - they won't care if there's a key available or not. seriously. if there's a fire in a building and they have to get into all apartments, they'll smash all the doors in. it's their job.
    yup. that's exactly what happened in my very first apt, and it was just smoke carried in through the airshaft.
    we were lucky the neighbor stuck their dog in our place to guard . . . we were out of town.
    :shock:
  • mypasswordwontwork wrote: Thanks for this post. I have a couple of questions. How can you put some thief off crow-barring your door? Is there anything you can do to help prevent that? And also, even if you put locks on your windows, couldn't a thief just smash your window to get in?
    You can get a j-bar installed on your door, which makes it extremely difficult to crowbar open.
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