Insurance Fraud Meter Maids (Transit Enforcement Agent
Back in October, I received a ticket at 3 AM for blocking a pedestrian crossing between Sterling Place and Butler Place. I was parked on Sterling Place, the crossing area was not marked. I contested the ticket and won. In the meantime, somebody has since painted the curb yellow.
In the past week, I have received two more tickets from our neighborhood meter maid for an expired inspection. My inspection sticker expired in December of 06. It’s a brand new car which I bought back in December of 05, I would have thought the inspection would have been good for more than a year.
This is my fault, I should have paid more attention. I have an appointment this Thursday to have the car inspected. What are the chances that I will receive two more tickets? Is there a 30 day grace period for an expired inspection?
Has anyone else had similar experience with our local meter maids? I almost feel like the local meter maids do not like newer cars & or perhaps the gentrification folks moving into there hood. Perhaps we are an easier target than a beat up out of state Toyota Camry.
In the past week, I have received two more tickets from our neighborhood meter maid for an expired inspection. My inspection sticker expired in December of 06. It’s a brand new car which I bought back in December of 05, I would have thought the inspection would have been good for more than a year.
This is my fault, I should have paid more attention. I have an appointment this Thursday to have the car inspected. What are the chances that I will receive two more tickets? Is there a 30 day grace period for an expired inspection?
Has anyone else had similar experience with our local meter maids? I almost feel like the local meter maids do not like newer cars & or perhaps the gentrification folks moving into there hood. Perhaps we are an easier target than a beat up out of state Toyota Camry.
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Unfortunately, the State of New York only grants a 5 day grace period...other states are more lenient (I think Vermont's is still 30 days).
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you best take it to a 24/hr inspection place.
there are some in brooklyn. hehe last time i totally forgot about it. and found a place along coney island ave. they have tons and tons of car places and some 24 inspection places. -
I believe if you send in a receipt (that has been stamped within the grace period) within a week or two of the ticket issued you should get a pass. Don't quote me though.
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The date on the sticker should already included any grace periods allowed by the state. If the sticker says 01/08/07 then you can certainly get a ticket at 3am on the 9th. I'm just curious...where these tickets the computer generated type or handwritten. Parking Enforcement doesn't spend too much time in the confines of the 77 and they are the ones with the computer generated tickets.
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We have an appointment to bring the car in tomorrow evening for inspection. Both tickets are the computer generated type, I left both tickets on the front dash of the car, hoping I will not get a third. I did not check last night.
Parking Enforcement does seem to spend a lot of time on Butler Place and Sterling, not sure about the rest of the neighborhood. -
I guess they stick to the Prospect Heights side of town. A TEA (traffic enforcement agent) will not care that you've gotten tickets in the past. By acknowleding that you're in the wrong and haven't fixed the problem may even be more of a reason to tag you again.
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The TEA's or Meter Maids really must enjoy being closer to the park, near the comforts of the meters on Flatbush & Vanderbuilt Ave. The only power/authority these people have in life, is the little computer that they carry in there pocket to print up tickets.
I beat they receive a bonus on the tickets that are paid, not issued. Hence you never see tickets on the dilapidated cars that fill the streets. -
Maybe its not the only power/authority they have in life (clearly you look down your very long nose at these people, given you can't even let go of the "meter maid" title). Maybe you actually are in the wrong and you have to abide by the rules that everyone else in the state does, which is yearly registration. Its not hard to do.
so rather than sit on a board belittling an entire class of people for your own acknowledged oversight, why don't you just realize they are doing their job and go and get the inspection.
honestly.
oh and i love how you have made this a gentrification issue. they are only out to get you because you are a gentrifier with a new car. get over it. -
I realize that I am in the wrong, no doubt about that. If you read my earlier post, you will see that we have an appointment on Thursday.
However, I do feel like that my car has been unfairly targeted by the "TEA's." How many cars are parked on your block with out of state plates?
When I moved to this neighborhood, my insurance went up 15%. I don't understand how so many people get away with registering there cars out of state to save on the insurance... that is if they even have insurance. -
Just the implication that you are being unfairly targetted and the other people probably don't even have insurance is just... well... gross.
and maybe the out of staters really have primary residences in other locations. or belong to students whose primary residences are still with their parents.
insurance is higer here than most places no doubt. but acting like this is some rich mans burden you are enduring as the target of the lower classes who arent ticketing their own is laughable.
lastly, though I dont drive anymore, I don't remember inspections being something you have to schedule 3 days out. if you don't want the tickets, drive to the 24 hour place. its a new car... its not like you have to save up money to bring it into emissions compliance like some of the rest of the cars in the neighborhood with current inspections.
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Here's a littel trick. Contest the ticket on-line or via the mail and they'll automatically reduce the cost of the ticket. So, you end up paying $35 for a $50 ticket. Give it a try. You don't beat the ticket, but you save a few bucks...
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Subject: Re: Revenue Generating Meter Maids
SirSterling wrote: Back in October, I received a ticket at 3 AM for blocking a pedestrian crossing between Sterling Place and Butler Place. I was parked on Sterling Place, the crossing area was not marked. I contested the ticket and won. In the meantime, somebody has since painted the curb yellow.
it is a bit tricky right there - there are no crosswalks noted, but there are actually 2 (I believe) of those little ramps cut-in on the north side of sterling to cross to butler. it annoys me to no end when those spots are available because they WILL (and obviously, DO) give tickets there, regardless of whether there is a painted crosswalk or not... -
And that is why there are different codes for blocking a crosswalk and blocking a pedestrian ramp. The DOT has publicly stated that their research shows that it is more dangerous in some locations with a marked crosswalk as opposed to an unmarked crosswalk. (Did that make sense?) The DOT doesn't like to put marked crosswalks at locations where there are not traffic control devices because without the traffic control device (light or sign) pedestrians are given a false sense of security.
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While I agree that SirSterling is being a little harsh on people just doing their difficult and thankless job regarding parking tix, he is absolutely spot on about the number of cars on our streets with out of state plates. I have encountered people who freely admit that they are defrauding the system by registering their car via a relative's address. The fact that they are fucking everyone else over is beyond them, and that they're stealing because it involves insurance companies appparently makes it ok. Check out the number of cars with Carolina, Florida and Georgia plates in NY, totally ridiculous. Primary residence, my ass. I have seen cars with out of state plates with bumper stickers saying "My kid is a fuckwit at .... so-and-so HS , Brooklyn." Ok, it said honors student but their parent is a fuckwit. And a thief.
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I did not intend to be harsh towards the TEA's, it's there job. However, I still do believe that the newer cars are unfairly targeted. When was the last time you saw a ticket on an out of state car?
I was finally able to bring the car in for inspection last night. Three $65 tickets in less than a week, the inspection cost me $10. It was just a general safety check. Unbelievable. I will try to fight this.
I will also look for a parking garage. Any recommendations? In the past six months since I have lived in the hieghts, I have racked up 4 tickets and my car was broken into once. I originally thought that spending $250 was too much for a parking place. Now after moving the car three or four times a week, some nights it takes as long as an hour, I think I will splurge!
So perhaps the TEA's should start cracking down on insurance fraud? I agree with the points above, we are paying higher rates as a result of all the cars that are registered out of state. -
TEA's have no way to address insurance fraud. And by the way, I see plenty of out of state vehicles get tickets. The problem is that there are less violations to ticket them for. Oot of state vehicles can not be tagged for expired stickers.
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sirsterling, two tips for you:
1- try parking in the slope. it's only 1 day/wk there, so it will save you time if you can find a spot on the right day.
2 - park on flatbush next to the park, across from the library. it's M/Th on that side I believe, so that covers you for a few days. the library side has meters going back for a bit, so i haven't investigated parking on that side. -
SirSterling wrote: I did not intend to be harsh towards the TEA's, it's there job. However, I still do believe that the newer cars are unfairly targeted. When was the last time you saw a ticket on an out of state car?
usually when i a see a ticket on a car in PH, the car has out of state plates. who knows. i think out of state cars also get broken into more often, this is atleast what the police told me. (?) -
When was the last time you saw a ticket on an out of state car?
I kept my CT plates for a while after moving here, and let me assure you that the statement above is way wrong. Every time I screwed up, there was a ticket there the next morning.
Once I registered in NY, I forgot to display my inspection sticker and got a ticket within 12 hrs of it expiring. If there is one thing in this city that works efficiently, this is it. I've added BK meter maids to my "Don't f*ck with" list, right after the IRS and DMV. Some battles you just don't win. -
License plate fraud costs us millions
State report says registration cheats often have no insurance
Sunday, January 14, 2007
By MAURA YATES
STATEN ISLAND ADVANCE
A new crackdown aimed at fraudulently registered cars in New York City could be on the way, after the state Commission of Investigation released a preliminary report highlighting the growing problem of rate evasion through the use of out-of-state plates.
Between revenue lost from vehicle registration and New York state insurance premiums, phony license plates cost taxpayers millions, said Alfred D. Lerner, a former state Assemblyman and judge who chaired the commission. The city has also been cheated out of millions in unpaid parking, traffic violation, and red-light camera fines, he said, explaining why the preliminary report recommends a crackdown.
The commission's report focused on plates from Pennsylvania, due to the state's proximity and cooperation from law enforcement there.
But the real problem, Lerner argued, is people who "register the vehicles in Pennsylvania, get insurance, pay the first premium and never pay another premium," Lerner said. "So they're essentially riding around with out-of-state plates and no insurance at all."
If someone is injured by a fraudulent out-of-state driver who doesn't have his or her own insurance coverage, "You're on your own," Lerner said. "I can't emphasize how significant that impact is on people who might be injured as a result of one of these drivers."
Even if those "out-of-staters" do have insurance, companies are likely to cancel a policy found to have been applied for with falsified documents, leaving anyone injured in an accident to sue the vehicle owner and hope the owner has adequate funds for compensation.
"If you get hurt by one of these people, who knows what they're going to come up with?" said Jose Roman of Brooklyn, who was visiting his daughter, Elaine Gil of Grasmere.
Fraudulent plates are on the rise in the city, the report found, available to anyone with a relative or friend living in another state willing to fudge the paperwork, or anyone who knows the right people to call. The commission found that more than 1,650 vehicles are currently registered to 14 addresses in Pennsylvania -- an average of 120 vehicles registered to each address.
The fake plates cause huge losses for the insurance industry -- which the industry makes up by charging higher premiums to legitimate policyholders.
Pennsylvania's Department of Transportation has been gradually implementing new regulations to curb out-of-state registrations by requiring valid Pennsylvania driver's licenses or ID cards before titles and registration documents are issued. A PennDOT spokeswoman said out-of-state residents who try to renew their registrations will be advised to comply with residency requirements or transfer ownership to the state where they actually live.
The NYPD arrests anyone in possession of fake registration, insurance, or inspection documents, and impounds vehicles from out of state with at least three money judgments against them, according to the report, which was released last month.
Any Staten Islander recently stuck in traffic can attest to the report's finding that plates most commonly spotted here are from Pennsylvania, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Maryland, Delaware, and Georgia. In a one-hour drive through residential streets in a range of Staten Island neighborhoods, the Advance spotted more than 50 vehicles bearing license plates from 15 states outside of New York.
It is probable that some of these vehicles belong to visitors. But the report found many out-of-state vehicles were parked in the same spots every day, and others were seen in Manhattan-bound rush-hour traffic coming from Long Island. Then there are the Deep South plates with bumper stickers from schools in the neighborhood.
"It's so brazen," said Lerner, the commission chairman.
Calling for a multistate task force to combat rate evasion, the commission also pushed for the establishment of a telephone hotline and Web site for citizens to report neighbors known to live here, but whose vehicles are sporting fraudulent plates.
Such a move could pit neighbor against neighbor. If one person is paying full price for a New York registration, and the person's dishonest next-door neighbor has a relative in another state, "why should they get that freebie?" Ms. Gil asked.
When you crunch the numbers, it's easy to see the appeal of neighbor-state plates. According to the North Carolina Department of Insurance, the Tar Heel state has the lowest auto insurance rates east of the Mississippi River and the fifth-lowest rates in the country, based on 2004 data.
The National Association of Insurance Commissioners estimates the average premium for drivers in North Carolina is $597. Compare that to $1,221 in New Jersey, home of the country's highest rates, and New York's second-highest, with an average of $1,171.
"It's not fair," said Patty Loughlin of Dongan Hills, of those who escape paying the full New York rate. "I know some people who pay less than half."
When she sees a glut of Pennsylvania tags in traffic, "It makes me feel angry," she said. "I'm one of the people who has to pay the high rates."
Maura Yates covers transportation news for the Advance. She may be reached at [email protected]. -
this wont help cause alot of folks have upstate cabins and mailing addresses for insurance reasons. i wish they would just charge people to drive in around nyc. this way the out of city ones would be force to pay more for their cheaper insurance rates.
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Bottom line is that even if your car is properly registered and insured in another state, you are required to register your car in NY within 30 days of moving into the State. Most people fail to do this, and for some reason, the State has not chosen to crack down on out of state registered cars in any real way. Its not just a problem in NYC (its actually a bigger problem in the southern tier near the PA border), but throughout the state.
Also, for those of you riding in the Bk black cars and gypsy cabs, a cab driver told me that any cabs you see in Bk with out of state plates are most likely uninsured. He cautioned me about getting into one after we were almost struck by a cab with Pa plates on Eastern Pkwy. -
Subject: Re: Insurance Fraud & Meter Maids (Transit Enforcement A
SirSterling wrote: Back in October, I received a ticket at 3 AM for blocking a pedestrian crossing between Sterling Place and Butler Place. I was parked on Sterling Place, the crossing area was not marked. I contested the ticket and won. In the meantime, somebody has since painted the curb yellow.
My wife just got a similar ticket. A) Did you contest it via mail or in person? B)What was your argument that you were able to win? Thanks in advance. -
I took pictures of the car and sent them in via the mail. It was pretty clear from the pictures that we did not block the pedestrian crossing. The pictures also showed that there was no crosswalk, the curb was not painted yellow and there was no sign posted. Since then, they have painted the curb yellow. Good luck.
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Oh, the joys of not owning a car!
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Painted curbs mean nothing. The only thing a painted curb does is make it more visible. There is also no requirement for signs indicating a pedestrian ramp. SirSterling, was the summons for a crosswalk or a pedestrian ramp? There is no summons for blocking a "pedestrian crossing." Pedestrian crossings are often used without marked crosswalks at intersections in which one of the streets comes to an end such as at the intersection of St. John's and St. Francis. One the north side of St. Johns there is a mid-block pedestrian ramp. There are no signs, no paint on the curb and no marked crosswalks. However, if you block the ramp then you get a summons.
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