eastern parkway and franklin ave.
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A Bookstore!
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I have faith in Franklin Avenue. There are many people on these message boards with some great ideas. Franklin avenue will change. If we want change we should make it happen, after all it's our neighborhood isn't it.
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i want a bookstore, bar AND good pizza place.....please?
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Growing up here, there was INCREDIBLE pizza on every block, sometimes 2 or 3 places to get it. I want to know: where did all the pizza go? Pizza is a classic NYC meal!
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I actually think a bookstore could be the most important thing ever--I bet there are statistics about literacy and crime reduction in nabes with bookstores, among other things. Anything but a BandN would be great. I'd love to see a bookstore/cafe/bar with a particular emphasis--arts, poetry, and travel, for instance...
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really? i'm not such a big fan of 'specialty' bookstores - if it's gonna be a 'specialty' bookstore i hope it takes after the st. mark's bookstore which has a huge cultural studies section but is still respectable for many other sections - all too often, stores become too narrow and then you miss general buyers, but in the end B&N will probably move to frankling ave!!!!!!!!!!!! but seriously, i'm really looking forward to a 'wal-martish' nail salon it would free up about 50% of the space on franklin ave....
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I think these are all great ideas. I second the vote for a mellow bar (no red ropes but good red wine) or bookstore. I also would love a place to buy cut flowers and fish. I would not be opposed to seeing some more offices -- maybe a non-profit or two to benefit the local community. On a separate note, I have a friend who is trying to open a small burrito place (and he's an awesome chef who does killer burritos) but needs some additional funding if anyone has any ideas about where to send him.
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i'm afraid i have to veto all these ideas b/c a bookstore should be opened in my bedroom - i also want a non-profit to locate at the bottom of my building so i don't have to use the subway during rush hour anymore!
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Subject: Re: eastern parkway and franklin ave.
sassy wrote: All those shops look like they are closing there-where American fried chicken was-what's going on?
They are closing, Mazon is closing as well. They may build condo's. -
OK- just a little update. Talked to the Mazon guy today (what a nice man). I asked him how many condos he would be putting upstairs...he says "60." Yeah, you read that right. Six. Zero. I choked and asked him how that was possible. They're knocking the whole place down....it's gonna be 6 stories high. It will be 2/3 bedrooms, it will have a gym (!), and get this, an UNDERGROUND parking facility (!!!) underneath for residents only!
Get prepared, cause it is on. -
Whatchuwant...I am curious what Compton refers to in your tag line.
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Subject: Re: eastern parkway and franklin ave.
Anonymous wrote: [quote=sassy]All those shops look like they are closing there-where American fried chicken was-what's going on?
They are closing, Mazon is closing as well. They may build condo's.
If you ever want the real poop on what's going on with a building, it's all on the city's website: www.nyc.gov/buildings. All you need to know is the buildings address.
Checking out this building at 341 Eastern Parkway reveals a rejected application for an 80 foot tall, 8 story building with 60 units. The proposed building would be 84,860 sf. The architect of record is Gene Kaufman, located at 525 Broadway, NYC. His phone number is 212-625-8700. The application was filed on Dec. 21, 2006 and rejected on Jan. 9th, 2007. No reason for the rejection was given.
The direct link is:
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=2&allisn=0001322542&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=&allstrt= -
Wow, Greg, this is great stuff- you rock. Right after I leave here, I'm going to check it out. I wonder why he told me that---using the power of positivity, perhaps??? He stands to make a killing if it goes through.
Dear Hal- Compton, Ca. It's an east coast/left coast thing. Hope that clears it up for ya. -
Whatchuwant, thanks.
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Mazon's is 50% today. Signs says they gotta clear the store today. Stock up on shower curtons and rat poison while you can!
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greenjean527 wrote: Mazon's is 50% today. Signs says they gotta clear the store today. Stock up on shower curtons and rat poison while you can!
Oooh! Any idea how late they're open? -
dude said 8pm.
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Subject: Re: eastern parkway and franklin ave.
Checking out this building at 341 Eastern Parkway reveals a rejected application for an 80 foot tall, 8 story building with 60 units. The proposed building would be 84,860 sf. The architect of record is Gene Kaufman, located at 525 Broadway, NYC. His phone number is 212-625-8700. The application was filed on Dec. 21, 2006 and rejected on Jan. 9th, 2007. No reason for the rejection was given.
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at least mazon got gene kaufman as architect....there is some hope for a good looking building. lets just hope this is not one of these poorly constructed stucco and alucobond panel type things. i know gene's office can turn a real nice looking product, but fresh developers (I dont think eli mazon has developed a building before) with lowest bidder (probably some builder that has never done a building this size) will often produce a completely mangled original design...the building envelope will start changing at the last minute...materials get downgraded and substituted...all of this mostly due to their inexperience managing these types of projects and budgets...
still um keeping keep my fingers crossed -
If the proposal was rejected, does that mean the project won't happen? Or is it standard to go through rejections before getting an approval?
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it's standard to go through rejections prior to obtaining final approval. It most likely will happen but it may not be in the most recently submitted form.
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Subject: DOB objections vocab
Ben wrote: it's standard to go through rejections prior to obtaining final approval. It most likely will happen but it may not be in the most recently submitted form.
the term is "objections"...DOB list of objections is basically a list generated by a plan examiner who reviews the application for compliance with the applicable laws, codes and regulations. any non compliance or potential noncompliance is listed by the examiner...typically there are about 40 to 60 objections at the beginning of a plan exam, but this can vary from examiner to examiner. there is no rule to this.
the process from initial filing to approval can vary vastly, but it is probably true that in this case the approval is min. 2 to 3 months away...however I have no details about the project, so this may be way off. -
Subject: Re: DOB objections vocab
square feet wrote: [quote=Ben]it's standard to go through rejections prior to obtaining final approval. It most likely will happen but it may not be in the most recently submitted form.
the term is "objections"...DOB list of objections is basically a list generated by a plan examiner who reviews the application for compliance with the applicable laws, codes and regulations. any non compliance or potential noncompliance is listed by the examiner...typically there are about 40 to 60 objections at the beginning of a plan exam, but this can vary from examiner to examiner. there is no rule to this.
the process from initial filing to approval can vary vastly, but it is probably true that in this case the approval is min. 2 to 3 months away...however I have no details about the project, so this may be way off.
According to Eli Mazon, the plan was rejected because the DOB wanted to see a setback from the street for the commercial portion of the building. This might have been just one of many objections cited by the plan examiner. -
greenjean527 wrote: Mazon's is 50% today. Signs says they gotta clear the store today. Stock up on shower curtons and rat poison while you can!
I went in there today, the guy said they close for good on the 22nd. there's really not much of anything left -- but they did have CHEAP scented candles which was like a miralce to me, candles are usually on the expensive side -- I got ten votives & four big ones, 3 pair of socks and a box of 70 childrens bandaids for $4.50!! it was like christmas
oh and the recording was cracking me up -- guy shouting EVERYTHING 50% OFF!! YOU WIN! I LOSE! IT'S OKAY!! WE'RE CLOSING ANYWAY!
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That cracks me up, too. "$1.00? 50 cents for you." Especially the part where he says he loses -- he'll lose by selling condos for millions!
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FYI, I was just over on Franklin this afternoon and Mazon's going-out-of-business sale is still going on. I got a big swirly Jesus wall light thingy for five bucks!
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Subject: hey neighbor, what happened to you?
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Since you made this a separate thread, I'm deleting it here. -
gingerolive wrote: [quote=sje]anniewild, you said "while the real estate is this low". Where are the inexpensive storefronts you're referring to? I'd be very interested.
BTW, I'm in the process of moving to Sterling between Nostrand and New York, and to my surprise, after spending some time on Nostrand, I found that it's exactly how you describe Fort Greene, one mom and pop, creatively run, local shop after another, and appears to be quite thriving. Immeasurably better than Franklin, in that respect.
I used to live on Sterling bet. Nostrand and NY. I loved it, sorry I had to move. (great block). Yes Nostrand is thriving, I only wish the same for Franklin Ave. I now live on Franklin and Pacific and I like where I am now also. I usually walk to bedstuy or fortgreen for shopping and such. I do believe that Franklin Ave won't stay a no mans land forever. Things are changing and they will for the better
Hi gingerolive,
I lived in Flatbush in the 60,'s, had friends from all back rounds all denominations, and since my wives passing a year ago I have been searching for old friends from my old neighborhood, I could really like seeing some old friends telling them the Stories of my Life with a wonderful women, you could never ever find nicer. She knew how to discipline the kids too Son was easy Daughter was hard. but she was beautiful.
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