Since when are basement apartments legal?!?!?!
http://realestate.nytimes.com/+comshare/vulisting.asp?Lid=866-408
Read the 2nd to the last line of the above NY Times ad.
Since when are basement apartments legal?
Is this a NYC code revision, or is the Awaye Realty agent a dum-dum?
Read the 2nd to the last line of the above NY Times ad.
Since when are basement apartments legal?
Is this a NYC code revision, or is the Awaye Realty agent a dum-dum?
Comments
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Ummmmmm, a dum-dum #-o
Anything to make the sale. -
Might not be a real basement like you're thinking of. In a lot of Slope houses, the ground floor, below the parlor floor, is technically a "basement," if you have to take a step down from the street to come in. Then the parlor floor (at the top of the stoop) is technically the "first floor." And the lowest level (below ground level) is properly called a "cellar." Hope that makes sense. So the "basement" level could be legal living space. I'm not sure whose terminology this is -- the Dept of Buildings maybe. (I didn't spend a lot of time studying the ad, so not sure what the story is in this particular case.)
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I remember back in the 80's, during the height of my mom's tenant activism days, there were buildings all along 5th Ave owned by slumlords that had real, illegal basement apartments. They were usually occupied by poor hispanic families. I went down to visit a family once with my mom, and the whole basement was separated by several cubicle-style partitions. The spaces were called "bins" if that gives you an idea of how small the spaces were. This particular woman had two kids and a newborn baby. Sad stuff. Greed was obviously what drove the slumlord to create such unlivable conditions. While I hope the Times ad is just a poor choice of words, part of me wouldn't be shocked if greed had just ascended to a different level.
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I once was looking at a new two family house and the broker was talking about how the basement apartment has backyard access. I asked them how can they possibly can a COO for that apartment. Their response that it was illegal, but no one could have afforded the house if they didn't rent the basement space.
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Its true most people have to rent the basement in order to be able to pay the damn mortgage.....houses are freakin' expensive in NY! :-({|=
My uncle owns a house and he rents out his basement , and its pretty nice.He did some renovations and its totally liveable....heck I'd take it , but I already have a house..arrgh..apartment....I'm must get used to saying that #-o
Plus , he already has renters, two guys , are they gay? I don't know...and I don't care....lol , thats what everyone asks me , freakin' idiots ](*,) -
Actually, I believe you are allowed to rent a portion of a cellar legally. As a living space. It's a relatively new ruling. I forget the specifics.
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Idlewild wrote: Actually, I believe you are allowed to rent a portion of a cellar legally. As a living space. It's a relatively new ruling. I forget the specifics.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, Idle. Health code standards have also changed quite a bit since the 80's. -
If a landlord is found to be in violation, what happens to the tenants? Presumably they are living their by choice and paying a rent that was more affordable than legit places. Do they get kicked out onto the street? I'd rather live in a basement than be homeless.
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I think the would most likely fine the owner , and maybe tell the renters that they must find another place to live , probably give them some time to find an apartment.....maybe?
How about rent stabilized apartments ? Who on here has one? What are the perks of having one?
I got one, but I am new to this apartment thing and I don't know exactly what having a rent stabilized apartment does for a tenant? :-k -
Having a rent stabilized limit the amount the landlord can raise your rent per month. Also, in most cases you cannot be evicted if you are current with your rent.
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Idlewild wrote: Having a rent stabilized limit the amount the landlord can raise your rent per month. Also, in most cases you cannot be evicted if you are current with your rent.
I think the only instance of you being evicted (and it would be a long process) is if the owner wants to occupy the space. -
True. Or a relative. Even then it's hard. Judges are hip to that loophole.
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Waaaaaaahoooooooo! Freakin' awesome
I like my apartment , the rooms are big and the neighborhood is fine with me , I really like it here , and to have it rent stabilized , well thats the icing on the cake!
I really think this neighborhood is gonna get alot better , and the rent will start getting higher , but I won't have to worry about that now will I ...yay!
Go me , its my birthday , go go go go , go me!!!
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Thanks for the info :-' -
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sorry about that link eff up.
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remybklyn wrote: sorry about that link eff up.
Yeah ...it said ," the URL is not valid someone made a fool of you, cannot access" , something like that.
I copied and pasted what you wrote minus "url=" where did that come from? lol
Had you not explained yourself I would have thought , damn remy is on crack #-o
I joke...forgive me.
Thanks for the cracked out link, I read and understand now that I got lucky with this apartment. -
When we bought our South Slope frame house ( when it was still affordable) I was very confused. The basement is actually our first floor. (where we have our kitchen and living room) The cellar is what I would have called the basement, but this is the below ground level unfinished floor with the boiler, etc. So, if it is called a basement rental in a 100 year old frame house, nothing to worry about.
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Em26 wrote: [quote=remybklyn]sorry about that link eff up.
Yeah ...it said ," the URL is not valid someone made a fool of you, cannot access" , something like that.
I copied and pasted what you wrote minus "url=" where did that come from? lol
Had you not explained yourself I would have thought , damn remy is on crack #-o
I joke...forgive me.
Thanks for the cracked out link, I read and understand now that I got lucky with this apartment. My crack smoking habit aside, my father is a lucky mofo too. His apartment (the apartment I grew up in) falls under Rent Control laws, which are different than rent stabilization. He pays less than 300 a month for his two bedroom. lucky man! -
You might be talking about an english basement, very poular in north slope between 4th and 5th. It's an apt that appears submerged from street level but it actually is the ground floor i.e it has a garden. you need to go downstairs from the street level floor, but from the back, the street level floor is actually the 2nd floor.
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i lived in a illegal basement with my parents for 5 years, you know what it beats living on the streets. Thats what my parents could afford.
I known people that been thrown out of illegal basements cause some jackass "concerned" about people living in basements.
all the self righteousness don't help the guy who can't afford to live in a legal place.
most of my life i hate the so called activist who thinks they know whats better for working class people. they haven't gone one day hungry in their lives sans the dieting. -
remybklyn wrote:
My crack smoking habit aside, my father is a lucky mofo too. His apartment (the apartment I grew up in) falls under Rent Control laws, which are different than rent stabilization. He pays less than 300 a month for his two bedroom. lucky man!
He is lucky , and you might be as well , because can't he like "pass it down " to you since you are his son?
My husbands uncle has an apartment in Park Slope that he has locked on rent control , for about 300 a month .He has had it for 30-40 years , something like that.He saved enough money over the years paying such low rent , that he was able to buy a 6 unit apartment building in PS putting down a huge down payment , and since all of the apartments were all rented out when he bought it , he stays in that rent controlled apartment , paying whatever he owes the bank with some of the rent he makes....now thats a lucky lucky bastard. -
just wondering if anyone knows..if I live in a rent stabilized apt in PS and my 1 yr lease is up in a couple of months, around how much should I expcet my rent to rise? I'm paying $950 now.
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Em26 wrote: [quote=remybklyn]
My crack smoking habit aside, my father is a lucky mofo too. His apartment (the apartment I grew up in) falls under Rent Control laws, which are different than rent stabilization. He pays less than 300 a month for his two bedroom. lucky man!
He is lucky , and you might be as well , because can't he like "pass it down " to you since you are his son?
My husbands uncle has an apartment in Park Slope that he has locked on rent control , for about 300 a month .He has had it for 30-40 years , something like that.He saved enough money over the years paying such low rent , that he was able to buy a 6 unit apartment building in PS putting down a huge down payment , and since all of the apartments were all rented out when he bought it , he stays in that rent controlled apartment , paying whatever he owes the bank with some of the rent he makes....now thats a lucky lucky bastard.
You're about to make escap have a seizure. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=Em26][quote=remybklyn]
My crack smoking habit aside, my father is a lucky mofo too. His apartment (the apartment I grew up in) falls under Rent Control laws, which are different than rent stabilization. He pays less than 300 a month for his two bedroom. lucky man!
He is lucky , and you might be as well , because can't he like "pass it down " to you since you are his son?
My husbands uncle has an apartment in Park Slope that he has locked on rent control , for about 300 a month .He has had it for 30-40 years , something like that.He saved enough money over the years paying such low rent , that he was able to buy a 6 unit apartment building in PS putting down a huge down payment , and since all of the apartments were all rented out when he bought it , he stays in that rent controlled apartment , paying whatever he owes the bank with some of the rent he makes....now thats a lucky lucky bastard.
You're about to make escap have a seizure.Whats that mean :? -
Anonymous wrote: just wondering if anyone knows..if I live in a rent stabilized apt in PS and my 1 yr lease is up in a couple of months, around how much should I expcet my rent to rise? I'm paying $950 now.
We are renewing our lease for two years....and its rent stabilized.
We were paying $750 a month , and in April or May our rent will be $804.34 for two years.
Maybe yours will be about $980-$1,000 since its only a yearly lease.
I think.... :-k -
Anonymous wrote: just wondering if anyone knows..if I live in a rent stabilized apt in PS and my 1 yr lease is up in a couple of months, around how much should I expcet my rent to rise? I'm paying $950 now.
I think the last time the Rent Guidelines Board met, one year leases were set to go up 8 percent...which would raise you to...$1,026 a month. When they become available, I will post the Rent Guideline Board hearing schedule. -
does every landlord enforce the rent increase based on the board?
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Anonymous wrote: does every landlord enforce the rent increase based on the board?
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hmm i'm hoping mine won't. guys..heads up.. if you see a revival of this post on july 2nd 2007 with a big WHOHOO, that would be me
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Does no one here read their lease before they sign it? I don't mean to be critical, but it strikes me as the height of absolute stupidity that you won't read something that you're signing. How could you not know what rent stabilization does, or how it impacts you?
Only landlords of rent stabilized buildings have to follow the board-approved rent increase. Other landlords are free to increase the rent as they wish. Many landlords are happy to have a good, clean tenant who pays on time, and if your rent is close or near to market value, will likely not raise the rent. Other landlords are only concerned with a dollar value, and will raise the rent to whatever they think they can get.
You only have inheritance rights to a rent-controlled apartment (MUCH different than rent stabilized) if you are a blood relative who is LEGITIMATELY living there full-time and have been doing so for a number of years.
Sorry. people who try to abuse the rent control laws make me cranky. I was friends with a woman who I found out had totally lied to get her grandma's $70 (not a typo, SEVENTY) a month apartment on bedford ave. in w'burg. that's not what the laws were designed to protect.
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