2007 Grammys

michaelkeys · February 2007

Yeah, I know: 4 days too late. But the good people at Glorious Noise did their annual recap and it is most excellent. To wit:

"Instead of the capable but unexciting walk through Iâ€™d expected, Sting, Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers came together to justify the euphoria rumors of their reunion sparked a couple months ago. Todayâ€™s current crop of rock-reggae fusion steppers should take note."

"Hot Topic poster boys Rascal Flatts bolster my belief that rock bands taking on country elements is good and country bands taking on rock elements is the death of country music."

"...a clip of James [Brown] performing â€œNight Trainâ€...should remind all of us of just exactly what was lost when the Hardest Working Man in Show Business died on Christmas Day last year."

"...the Dixie Chicks won Album of the Year and dug deeper the stick firmly planted in the eye of country fans who besieged the girls with death threats a couple years ago. But that song is still boring."

"...the also nominated Raconteursâ€™ Broken Boy Soldiers kicks the shit out of anything on the Peppers new album..."

Amen.

Full text:
http://www.gloriousnoise.com/articles/2007/2007_grammys.php

caaahyoko · February 2007

MK, you are a brave man if you actually sat and watched that thing. Once I heard James Blunt was nominated, I ran away screaming and puking at the same time (though I did tune in to watch The Police).

Very funny review, though. Thanks for sharing

drano · February 2007

I sorta watched it over my shoulder while doing other stuff.

- The Peppers have really been phoning it in for a while if you ask me. I saw them about six months ago, and I certainly hope they weren't, like, trying.

- If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

- The Police were good, but I'm not likely to be waiting in line for any of their tickets.

- Where the heck was all-time Grammy favorite Jethro Tull?

michaelkeys · February 2007

caaahyoko wrote: MK, you are a brave man if you actually sat and watched that thing.

I caught The Police and a few bits and pieces. I had company, so...

Drano wrote: - The Peppers have really been phoning it in for a while if you ask me. I saw them about six months ago, and I certainly hope they weren't, like, trying.

A few months ago, in my music/pop culture newsletter, I stated it was time for them to give up the ghost and had very few counter arguments. (Btw, Caaah, your hubby does not agree with me.) They haven't made a decent album in 15 years! (And even BloodSugarSexMagik was spotty: the second half, the tracks that follow "Give It Away"--with 2 exceptions-- are ATROCIOUS filler; Californication has a couple of OK songs, but really.) I loved the Peppers but they were a one trick pony: a punk/funk hybrid w/Kiedis' pseudo rapping on top. Period. Now, when they don't sound like a bad RHCP cover band, Kiedis has been trying to sing on these mid-tempo, ballad-type tunes they write these days w/sad results. Whew.

Drano wrote: - - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc. At least the Chicks got their name from a Little Feat song. Gotta give 'em points for that.

Drano wrote: - The Police were good, but I'm not likely to be waiting in line for any of their tickets.

Tickets for their Aug. 1st MSG show go on sale Tue. $95-$255 for floor seats. Plus, the Ticketmaster extorsion fee, of course. Ouch.

caaahyoko · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: (Btw, Caaah, your hubby does not agree with me.)

Oh, I know. He really likes them. :shrug: I don't really love or hate them. I'll have to ask him to explain his reasoning, but I know it has a lot to do with John F.

michaelkeys · February 2007

caaahyoko wrote: [quote=MichaelKeys](Btw, Caaah, your hubby does not agree with me.)

Oh, I know. He really likes them. :shrug: I don't really love or hate them. I'll have to ask him to explain his reasoning, but I know it has a lot to do with John F.
There seems to be a group of people that didn't like the Chili Peppers back in the Freaky Styley/Mother's Milk/BloodSugar era but currently like 'em, now that the elements that made them famous and distinctive aren't as prevalent in their music. Same thing with Unforgettable Fire U2 vs Achtung Baby U2. Cool. Different strokes and all that. But to me it's like preferring Phil Collins-led Genesis over Peter Gabriel-led Genesis. In other words, you're enjoying a version of them--sometimes even far removed from the original--that's not what they built their reputation on.

I've heard some people rave about John F's great guitar playing of late, but I'm not hearing it on the RHCP records. I LOVED his playing on Mother's and Blood Sugar and he was a demon live. But since he's been back in the band after his near-deadly drug addiction he sometimes sounds like he forgot how to play. Seriously. Not to mention that the RHCP have lost the funk. Don't know which is sadder.

doctorj · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: There seems to be a group of people that didn't like the Chili Peppers back in the Freaky Styley/Mother's Milk/BloodSugar era but currently like 'em, now that the elements that made them famous and distinctive aren't as prevalent in their music. Same thing with Unforgettable Fire U2 vs Achtung Baby U2. Cool. Different strokes and all that. But to me it's like preferring Phil Collins-led Genesis over Peter Gabriel-led Genesis. In other words, you're enjoying a version of them--sometimes even far removed from the original--that's not what they built their reputation on.

There's also people who think that *insert band* sold out and went downhill after the first 30 seconds of the B-side of the first single. In fact, they should never have betrayed their real fans by venturing above ground and into the studio.

Then there's people who think it's like preferring Yoko Ono-led Sean Lennon over Paul McCartney-led Wings, or comparing sour apples and sour grapes. That's me. Didn't like them much then or since.

laura · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: [quote=Drano]- - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc.
Ass Ponys? Butthole Surfers?

michaelkeys · February 2007

doctorj wrote: [quote=MichaelKeys]There seems to be a group of people that didn't like the Chili Peppers back in the Freaky Styley/Mother's Milk/BloodSugar era but currently like 'em, now that the elements that made them famous and distinctive aren't as prevalent in their music. Same thing with Unforgettable Fire U2 vs Achtung Baby U2. Cool. Different strokes and all that. But to me it's like preferring Phil Collins-led Genesis over Peter Gabriel-led Genesis. In other words, you're enjoying a version of them--sometimes even far removed from the original--that's not what they built their reputation on.

There's also people who think that *insert band* sold out and went downhill after the first 30 seconds of the B-side of the first single. In fact, they should never have betrayed their real fans by venturing above ground and into the studio.

Yup. That's not me, though. I don't care if my little underground fave blows up and becomes huge as long as the music's still good. (And for the record I liked U2's '90s records. Just trying to illustrate a point.)

doctorj wrote: Then there's people who think it's like preferring Yoko Ono-led Sean Lennon over Paul McCartney-led Wings, or comparing sour apples and sour grapes. That's me. Didn't like them much then or since.

Fair enough.
Welcome back, Dr.

michaelkeys · February 2007

laura wrote: [quote=MichaelKeys][quote=Drano]- - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc.
Ass Ponys? Butthole Surfers?
How 'bout Anal C***? That's a doozy, right there.

laura · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: [quote=laura][quote=MichaelKeys][quote=Drano]- - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc.
Ass Ponys? Butthole Surfers?
How 'bout Anal C***? That's a doozy, right there.
Yeah, I did think of them but didn't really want to even think about typing it. Plus the line between "stupid: subclass: deliberately provocative" and "stupid: subclass: just plain lame" gets hazy at times ...

pitu · February 2007

the line between "stupid: subclass: deliberately provocative" and "stupid: subclass: just plain lame" gets hazy at times ...

Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy?

amen. (the boys are back. the boys are back.)

Anyway, I watched about half the show on and off...and I had a great time. I love pop music. I never actually listen to it, but I love it.

missed RHCP and lil Justin Timberlake.
And wisht I missed the Eagles karaoke country thing (Glorious Noise knows!) and John Legend and John Mayer making themselves look bad.

And the decline of R&B!
as shown by the flight of performances by Smokey Robinson, Lionel Richie and Chris Brown.
Where was Mary J then?
Being robbed by Tony Bennett and Stevie Wonder!
(They won best collaboration rather than Ms. Blige with U2 "One" where she puts a whole new light on things)

I had major punk rock love for Natalie Dixie Chick's Simpsons "haha", and their live performance of the song was pretty great. (yes, it is snoring contemporary country. the PERFORMANCE was hot tho)

The Police...
why o WHY, I said.
Of course they're "good", but it left me cold.
Why are they doing this tour and why are they opening the grammys?
Is someone in tax trouble?
BTW, I was a child yelling "Roxxxxxanne" when it came out 100 years ago.
I'd rather bands go their separate ways and stay that way.

The Gnarls Barkley espectaculo was AWESOME.

Christina Aguilera giving it up for James Brownâ€™s â€œItâ€™s a Manâ€™s, Manâ€™s, Manâ€™s Worldâ€ was good award show fun. Shakira is hot, and I have a major soft spot for the weirdness that is Wyclef, but they did their schtik better on American Idol. Does Wyclef *ever* do a great live show? I love his studio albums.

and yeah Klezmatics! They won something! That's funny.

michaelkeys · February 2007

pitu wrote: The Police...
why o WHY, I said.
Of course they're "good", but it left me cold.
Why are they doing this tour and why are they opening the grammys?
Is someone in tax trouble?
BTW, I was a child yelling "Roxxxxxanne" when it came out 100 years ago.
I'd rather bands go their separate ways and stay that way.

Agreed. But I guess that when the public's fervent desire for a reunion by a legendary band that went out on top, its music still stands, with all the original members still alive, is this big, well...

drano · February 2007

Drano wrote:
- - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc. At least the Chicks got their name from a Little Feat song. Gotta give 'em points for that.

I don't like Little Feat, so no points from me. And for a lot of the bad band names mentioned, well, at least in some of those cases I think the act in question was trying to be stupid or annoying - I get the impression that the Dixie Chicks were trying to be cute. Cripes, with a handle like that I can just imagine them writing notes and dotting their i's with little hearts.

pitu · February 2007

Drano wrote: . . . dotting their i's with little hearts.

more likely little chicken paw prints

michaelkeys · February 2007

Drano wrote:
Drano wrote:
- - If The Dixie Chicks isn't the stupidest name for an act ever, it's a strong contender. I'm actually kind of glad they're stuck with it.

I dunno. I don't disagree but, Limp Bizkit? Def Leppard? Thin Lizzy? etc etc etc. At least the Chicks got their name from a Little Feat song. Gotta give 'em points for that.
I don't like Little Feat, so no points from me. And for a lot of the bad band names mentioned, well, at least in some of those cases I think the act in question was trying to be stupid or annoying - I get the impression that the Dixie Chicks were trying to be cute. Cripes, with a handle like that I can just imagine them writing notes and dotting their i's with little hearts.

Good point. With the Dixie Chicks, yeah, probably.

But those other bands were likely thinking they were cool or badass when they chose their lame-o monikers. Remember, the above examples are hard rock/metal/nu metal acts we're talking about. Irony, subtlety and/or self-deprecation is not something they are known for or even traffic in.

"Yeah, man. We're gonna call ourselves 'Def Leppard'"
"It's a bit shite, mate."
"Bollocks. It sounds great!"
And so on...

drano · February 2007

Oh, I agree for Def Leppard and their ilk. But The Butthole Surfers took their stupidity seriously, and that name has an odd poetry all its own.

You know what other sort of band names annoy me? The geographic names. Kansas, America, Europe, Asia, Chicago, Boston, etc. Awful.

Eh, forgive me. I'm in a cranky mood. I was overserved last night.

michaelkeys · February 2007

Drano wrote: Oh, I agree for Def Leppard and their ilk. But The Butthole Surfers took their stupidity seriously, and that name has an odd poetry all its own.

Agreed.

Drano wrote: You know what other sort of band names annoy me? The geographic names. Kansas, America, Europe, Asia, Chicago, Boston, etc. Awful.

I don't love 'em or hate 'em--I wouldn't use one for a band of mine, however--but I'm curious as to why you find them bleeech. (It's not hard to figure out why

but I just want to get your take on it.)

Drano wrote: Eh, forgive me. I'm in a cranky mood. I was overserved last night.

Huh? Food? Alcohol? Tennis?

pitu · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: [quote=Drano]Oh, I agree for Def Leppard and their ilk. But The Butthole Surfers took their stupidity seriously, and that name has an odd poetry all its own.

Agreed.

Drano wrote: You know what other sort of band names annoy me? The geographic names. Kansas, America, Europe, Asia, Chicago, Boston, etc. Awful.

I don't love 'em or hate 'em--I wouldn't use one for a band of mine, however--but I'm curious as to why you find them bleeech. (It's not hard to figure out why

but I just want to get your take on it.)

couldn't agree more, Drano
The place names come as a massive failure of imagination, paired fake grandeur.

I do love the Kiki and Herb Kansas cover of Carry On My Wayward Son however.

carnivore · February 2007

MichaelKeys wrote: [quote=Drano]Eh, forgive me. I'm in a cranky mood. I was overserved last night.

Huh? Food? Alcohol? Tennis?

Dance.

He got served!

apollonia666 · February 2007

pitu wrote: I do love the Kiki and Herb Kansas cover of Carry On My Wayward Son however.

!!!!!!!!!

Is there a recorded version of this available, or is it just something you've seen them do live? I'm something of a Kiki and Herb completist, so if there's some way I can get my paws on an MP3 of this...

BTW, you might enjoy this video I took of their post-Hurricane Katrina version of "Take Your Mama Out":

pitu · February 2007

apollonia666 wrote: [quote=pitu]I do love the Kiki and Herb Kansas cover of Carry On My Wayward Son however.

!!!!!!!!!

'fraid that was a rare live moment
and I've been waiting for them to add it back ever since
In fact, I don't think it's been part of their mix since a few years *before* Kiki stopped stepping on your table at Fez.
I like this Completist idea. Live at Carnegie and the Xmas album are what we have - what are we missing? I never looked for Bootleg Kiki...

apollonia666 · February 2007

pitu wrote: [quote=apollonia666][quote=pitu]I do love the Kiki and Herb Kansas cover of Carry On My Wayward Son however.

!!!!!!!!!

'fraid that was a rare live moment
and I've been waiting for them to add it back ever since
In fact, I don't think it's been part of their mix since a few years *before* Kiki stopped stepping on your table at Fez.
I like this Completist idea. Live at Carnegie and the Xmas album are what we have - what are we missing? I never looked for Bootleg Kiki...

Oh, MAN. First time I saw them, seven years ago, was one of those Fez shows. We managed to get right up front, too. Kiki swilled half of my friend's martini so she stole the glass to take home as a souvenir, I lit several of Kiki's ciggies, and one of the matches Kiki was tossing while doing her "Little Match Girl" bit landed in my Jack & Coke. I was hooked.

Don't know of any bootlegs, but there are a couple of tracks that appear on compilations you should try to find -- their cover of Sleater-Kinney's "I'm Not Waiting" from the Mr. Lady compilation Calling All Kings and Queens and Kiki solo doing Harry Nilsson's "Coconut" on the Loser's Lounge cd Simply Mad Mad Mad Mad About The Loser's Lounge. HOTT.

Also, the "Feast of Fools" podcast did a really long interview with Justin Bond a couple of years ago that's very much worth downloading for true Kiki devotees: right here.

By the way, here's my living room wall:

LOVE. Them.

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