WE LOVE MOOOOOOVIES: yay for the departed!
the departed was the only movie I saw nominated for the 'major' awards and it won a big chunk of them. I saw it (amusingly) on a plane from the UK and I was floored. so good.
the other movie I'd seen that was mentioned was children of men and I can't understand why it didn't win more awards. well, partly, it should have been nominated for more awards. so beautiful.
the other movie I'd seen that was mentioned was children of men and I can't understand why it didn't win more awards. well, partly, it should have been nominated for more awards. so beautiful.
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The departed really was a great movie, and I was definitely glad to see Scorcese finally get best director. That being said, I thought Babel should have won best picture, but that's just me.
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eh, I didn't see Babel but I've seen that director's other films and hated them. I will certainly see Babel and probably reverse my opinion. but, for now, in my ignorance, the Departed is way better.
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Instead of watching the Awards I was actually watching The Departed on DVD and um, Best Picture? Really? I haven't seen the other 4 but this one didn't strike me as Best Picture material, even though I kinda enjoyed it. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if someone else had directed, it probably wouldn't have won. Scorcese having been snubbed in the past and all that.
It's rather sad and disappointing when artists and/or their work are not recognized when it was truly deserved and then getting it later on out of some sense of remorse. (Remember Santana in '99?)
But what the hell do I know?
(Alfy, did you hate Amores Perros?) -
I loved Amores Perros, but thought it was a downhill slide in the fractured narrative style from there (21 Grams, nyet danke)
Amores Perros is a million times better in a theater, not for home viewing
I didn't see alot of these movies . . . what I did see was
Last King of Scotland, with that megaperf by Forrest Whitaker who I love love love since The Crying Game (him, Ghost Dog, whoa.)
Volver Penelope Cruz for Best Actress is the only outcome I was interested in...yeah, H Mirren is a great actress. End the reign of anglophiles!
The Lives of Others won best foreign. YEAH! The power of art in the time of the Stasi, with a side class in communist home design, state police operations, and evil careerist bureaucrats are everywhere.
and yeah Alan Arkin! I wouldn't have minded if Little Miss Sunshine won best picture too. It should have won for the script..or maybe it did, I wasn't paying close enough attention.
I did see the show's opening, and that was great. Yeah Erol Morris! It was as if someone with a contemporary sensibility was running the show for once. Such a relief from the usual craptaculars...of which I saw exactly one this year, the costume display tableaux.
I guess I have to see The Departed, DreamGirls and The Queen . . .
and Keys, totally with you on the stupidity of the awards delayed. Martin Scorsese should have won for Taxi Driver or Raging Bull, or Goodfellas! -
I hated Amores Perros. but my mother has pointed out that I hated it because I love Mexico City. we had a long chat about this when I told her why I wouldn't watch Babel. she convinced me I should see Babel but still. hated that fuckin' movie. and his BMW film? LOUSY.
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:-k
but i.love.mexico.city.
did you hate frida?
mexico city was a little pissed off about *that* film . . . -
I doubt they gave Departed best picture b/c of Scorcese. His pictures, such as Raging Bull, have won best picture before. It was Best Director that he'd never gotten, so I doubt that was an issue.
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Alan Arkin deserved to win -- I can still picture him and Abigail Breslin out-lioning each other
Haven't watched The Departed yet. gotta rent it... -
pitu wrote: :-k
I loved frida. but I don't think mexico city was pissed because of how it was portrayed, or how mexico itself was portrayed. there were pissed because they're racist asses and salma hayek is half lebanese. I lived in houston when that film was being made and the mexican community would have preferred to have MADONNA (ugh, she's a fuckin' horrible actress) play frida, rather than someone not fully mexican. there was this absurd boycott of the movie because of that. lame lame lame.
but i.love.mexico.city.
did you hate frida?
mexico city was a little pissed off about *that* film . . .
(I've been to frida's house - had to pay off some dudes 'restoring' it to get in because the museum was closed for repairs when I visited - and it was fantastic to see it in film. ahh. and chavela vargas!) -
alafairnadia wrote: the mexican community would have preferred to have MADONNA (ugh, she's a fuckin' horrible actress) play frida, rather than someone not fully mexican. there was this absurd boycott of the movie because of that. lame lame lame.
Yeah, but if they'd actually gotten Madonna to play the part then the mess would've been worse, like the uproar in Argentine when Mrs. Ritchie played Eva Peron. Even her hardcore argentinean fans turned against her for daring to play their dear "Evita" (who ironically, was not that disimilar from Madonna in how she rose to the top). Sometimes Latin American social and sexual politics are just plain weird, man...
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I had several problems with amores perros. there were absolutely no sympathetic characters in the whole movie. everyone, either at the surface or on a deep level, was a complete piece of shit. so I didn't really care about anyone in the movie. dude is obviously a misogynist - even in his (crap) bmw film (how do you fuck up a short film with clive owen and bmws??). in terms of my mexico-love, I hated that everything about mexico was portrayed as either dirty and despicable or corrupt and despicable. mexico is all of those things, of course, but it just pissed me off that that was the entire portrayal. I'm not saying that the movie is crap. I just hated it.
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I didn't know Hayek was of Lebanese descent. That adds to the long list...
Astrid Hadad (AWESOME cabaret performer, at La Bodgea most Fridays) http://www.astridhadad.com/
Elia from Top Chef
major glamour girls, all
The pissed off I knew about Frida, was that it was in English. I didn't hear any anti-Lebanese sentiments . . . interesting about your Texas tho.
I have Amores Perros waiting on DVR . . .
I saw it twice in the theater. I thought it was brilliant film-making, and captured some of the frenetic energy of D.F.
(interestin' that your mom pegged you about it) -
alafairnadia wrote: I had several problems with amores perros. there were absolutely no sympathetic characters in the whole movie. everyone, either at the surface or on a deep level, was a complete piece of shit.
Really? Not even El Chivo's daughter? Or the ad exec's estranged wife and daughters? Granted, there's not much to choose from...alafairnadia wrote: I hated that everything about mexico was portrayed as either dirty and despicable or corrupt and despicable.
That's one way of looking at it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I saw it more as depicting not that everyone is corrupt and morally bankrupt, necessarily, but that those elements are in all of (Mexican) society. In other words, no sector got romaticized. Which is a lot more realistic, dontcha think? -
MichaelKeys wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]I hated that everything about mexico was portrayed as either dirty and despicable or corrupt and despicable.
That's one way of looking at it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I saw it more as depicting not that everyone is corrupt and morally bankrupt, necessarily, but that those elements are in all of (Mexican) society. In other words, no sector got romaticized. Which is a lot more realistic, dontcha think?
right, but it goes back to my point about no sympathetic characters - everything was despicable. the people, the city, the society, the country, the system - all portrayed as awful. I can't stand that. and, actually, there was a lot of uproar in mexico re: amores perros expressing the same type of anger. which is basically why my mom said "you hated it because you love mexico city" - I just can't accept that characterization, for lack of a better word, of a city and its inhabitants. and, like pitu mentioned, the film did capture a lot of the atmosphere of the city, so I definitely saw mexico city as a character in the film. -
I LOVED Babel, Children of Men, and the Departed.
Babel didn't make Morocco or Japan look that great either. I cared about the Mexican charactor Amelia.
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ugh. I guess I have to see Babel. I've just ... had enough with the depressing. sigh.
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the win for 'the departed' was more like a 'lifetime achievement' award for scorcese. i don't think it's his best film by a long shot, but the recognition was long overdue.
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raw wrote: I LOVED Babel, Children of Men, and the Departed.
Babel didn't make Morocco or Japan look that great either. I cared about the Mexican charactor Amelia.
Is 21 Grams worth a watch?
i thought 21 grams was quite good. -
witch-king wrote: the win for 'the departed' was more like a 'lifetime achievement' award for scorcese. i don't think it's his best film by a long shot, but the recognition was long overdue.
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We watched Babel on DVD over the weekend.
I maintain the director Iñárritu and writer Arriaga are on a slow slide . . .
Amores Perros being the masterwork, pained, flawed, and supremely interesting
21 Grams being a flawed but sorta inneresting big studio US debut, with big actors and performances. Del Toro! Love Del Toro! And at least they speak Spanish in Mexico!
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Babel being a rubbish pile of Global themes, even tho Brad Pitt is mature hot.
We kept waiting for the depth of ideas part to kick in.
On top of that, it's just depressing.
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We await--or at least, I do--your take on The Departed.
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Ah, pitu has kindly pointed me to this thread! I dunno why but I just didn't get out to that many films this year, but must have watched hundreds on DVD or Cable this past year. I did see Little Miss Sunshine twice, that's how funny I thought that it was.I have not seen Babel yet but hope to see it soon because Brad Pitt really is hot. 21 Grams and Last King of Scotland are at the top of my must-see list right now.
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So . . . The Departed.
I would have loved it on a plane. At home, I just liked it. As noted by all, not his best movie. One of the things I like about Scorsese is his inventiveness. So many great movies that are *not* cut out of the same piece of cloth. In the first few minutes, I was bummed that it seemed like a (lesser) Goodfellas retread, but with those damn Boston accents that I find hard to follow.
Still, he's a huge talent and got all those big actor dudes together, and did the suffocating wickedly corrupt Boston PD/Southy thing.
Anybody read the life in Southie memoir "All Souls" by Michael Patrick MacDonald? Great book. I had to google to remember the title, and see he wrote about the film in the Boston Globe.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/10/11/revisiting_southies_culture_of_death/
Saw The Namesake the other night. Mira Nair. Family drama, multigeneration love story from an arranged marriage in India where for once the guy is NOT a prick, to the culture dissonance experienced by the kids...some good acting, a good story (adapted from a book I haven't read, by Jhumpa Lahiri) -
Alan Arkin didn't deserve to win anything. He won for body of work, not for Best Supporting Actor. He basically played himself or the same character he has played in most of the movies he has been in.
The Departed was the best English-spoken movie of the year, although I didn't see Letters from Iwo Jima, I did see all the others.
But it was not Scorcese's best, not by a long shot.
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