Dog friendly stores?
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Flexichick wrote:
:oops: I'm sorry....
Did you get a video? Have you learned NOTHING?! ;-) -
Anonymous wrote: Wow, aren't you all selfish. Who cares if someone is allergic--your errands are just too important. They're f-ing dogs, for crying out loud. They don't need to be anywhere near people who are eating or just trying to shop without tripping over rambunctious animals.
people are allergic to dust and pollen, yet i still see those everywhere.
It's your dog--you have to love it, I don't.
and fwiw, my dog has hair, not fur, therefore allergies are a non-issue.
he's probably more well-behaved in public than you. -
laura, I'm actually glad you brought up the kid-dog comparison. I was thinking that if I have to accept kids misbehaving in stores then other people can accept well-behaved dogs in stores. Especially since we're not allowed to complain about the kids now!
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friendlypitbull wrote: [quote=Anonymous]Wow, aren't you all selfish. Who cares if someone is allergic--your errands are just too important. They're f-ing dogs, for crying out loud. They don't need to be anywhere near people who are eating or just trying to shop without tripping over rambunctious animals.
So dont...
It's your dog--you have to love it, I don't.
BTW
Some people are allergic to peanuts - should they be banned at baseball games?
Some people are allergic to pollen or bees, should I not grow flowers on my balcony?
Some people are allergic to latex - should I not have ballons at my kids birthday party?
meh. Weak argument. Everyone expects those things in those places, and they are in their proper place. So I'm to assume by your argument that just because YOU want dogs and expect dogs to be anywhere you go, everyone esle should as well? -
your argument is perhaps even weaker, guest.
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Anonymous wrote: meh. Weak argument. Everyone expects those things in those places, and they are in their proper place. So I'm to assume by your argument that just because YOU want dogs and expect dogs to be anywhere you go, everyone esle should as well?
As I said, I don't have or want a dog - but I expect to encounter them during the day, just as I expect to see resident cats in stores. -
laura wrote: [quote=Anonymous]meh. Weak argument. Everyone expects those things in those places, and they are in their proper place. So I'm to assume by your argument that just because YOU want dogs and expect dogs to be anywhere you go, everyone esle should as well?
As I said, I don't have or want a dog - but I expect to encounter them during the day, just as I expect to see resident cats in stores.
I've had both pet cats and dogs throughout my life. Cats are more likely to hide from people and dogs are more likely to jump on people. -
caseopele wrote: laura, I'm actually glad you brought up the kid-dog comparison. I was thinking that if I have to accept kids misbehaving in stores then other people can accept well-behaved dogs in stores. Especially since we're not allowed to complain about the kids now!
You can't compare human children of any age and average intelligence to animals. Human parents can demand that their children behave. However, no one can predict what an animal is going to do. Even the most obedient animal could suddenly bite for the first time ever out of fear or due to sickness.
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Even the most mild-mannered person can suddenly go on a killing spree in a shopping mall, apparently.
I can totally predict what my dogs are going to do. One of them is going to want to kill every other dog he sees, and the other one is going to pee every 15 seconds, without any warning, possibly on my shoes. My kids are way better-behaved than my dogs -- they don't eat chicken bones off the sidewalk, they don't run up to strangers as if they're long-long friends, they don't pee on my shoes . . . . And they smell better. -
Subject: Re: Dog friendly stores?
pitu wrote: you take your dog to Lowes?
Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was cool, but one day while I was there, I saw someone with their black lab mix in the cart
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Yay! That's good to know. I wanted to check this place out, but usually the only chance I get to take a long walk on the weekend, I need to give the dogs some leash time. Now I have a destination other than Lowes :P
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Look at it this way, both dogs and kids need to be taught acceptable behavior. If they aren't taught that then they will act up.
I know exactly what my dogs will do at all times. Cheech will want to be petted and possibly pee if he feels threatened (due to abuse before I got him), he's never jumped on people and can't now because of his arthritis. Ripley will stare at everyone and everything because she is uncommonly curious. She will probably be interested in being petted until she gets nervous and hides behind her mommy.
And as far as I'm concerned my dogs are my kids, the only kids I'll ever have. It's my responsibility to make sure they behave themselves and aren't a nuisance to other people. I believe that parents should be as responsible for their children as I am with my dogs.
More to the actual point of this thread. I've been working at the wine store for 6 years. We've allowed dogs in our store the whole time. Not once has a dog been a problem for our staff or our customers. And everytime a dog has gotten a little too excited they are immediately taken outside to avoid annoying anyone. Novel idea. -
Anonymous wrote: Wow, aren't you all selfish. Who cares if someone is allergic--your errands are just too important. They're f-ing dogs, for crying out loud. They don't need to be anywhere near people who are eating or just trying to shop without tripping over rambunctious animals.
Where did we pick up such weird thought processes? Are we really so intolerant of nature and even other human beings? Wow. Did you ever stop to think that you are, by the simple fact that you have evolved to exist with other human beings and other animals, CAPABLE of dealing with all living organisms? Gasp! Get a grip on your mamalian dna, and pick up a copy of The Book of Chuang Tzu at B&N. (After parking your stroller upstairs, of course)
It's your dog--you have to love it, I don't.
The only thing irritating in a store filled with sticky children, muddy pups, cologne-dipped teenagers, and febreeze coated adults is your negative attitude. And they don't make a Claritin for that.
Wheeee! That was fun!
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that was fun!
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I like seeing all the cute doggies around the nabe.
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caaahyoko, you rock!
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tee hee. What can I say--you guys inspire me.
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This is a terrible story that I probably shouldn't tell, but one time, years ago, I tied up my dogs outside the corner store while I went in to get milk and I forgot they were there and went home without them. I really cannot imagine how I walked past them and went on my way -- I can get really lost in my own world sometimes -- and I don't want to imagine what they were thinking.
I went home, made my coffee, and started to wonder why the dogs weren't bugging me for breakfast. OH MY GOD, THE DOGS!!! I ran back to the corner store and there they were, thank God, and very happy to see me.
This is another reason why I don't like to combine errands and dog-walking. -
just remember to bring your brain with you, and this will probably never happen again.
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Rose wrote: This is a terrible story that I probably shouldn't tell, but one time, years ago, I tied up my dogs outside the corner store while I went in to get milk and I forgot they were there and went home without them. I really cannot imagine how I walked past them and went on my way -- I can get really lost in my own world sometimes -- and I don't want to imagine what they were thinking.
lol! Wow. No multi-tasking for you! I guess you are one of the people who shouldn't be walking through intersections with an ipod on.
I went home, made my coffee, and started to wonder why the dogs weren't bugging me for breakfast. OH MY GOD, THE DOGS!!! I ran back to the corner store and there they were, thank God, and very happy to see me.
This is another reason why I don't like to combine errands and dog-walking.
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Rose wrote: This is a terrible story that I probably shouldn't tell, but one time, years ago, I tied up my dogs outside the corner store while I went in to get milk and I forgot they were there and went home without them. I really cannot imagine how I walked past them and went on my way -- I can get really lost in my own world sometimes -- and I don't want to imagine what they were thinking.
I have a neighbor who did that! I don't really know her, but I know her and that dog go together, so I found myself yelling after her, "did you forget your dog?"
I went home, made my coffee, and started to wonder why the dogs weren't bugging me for breakfast. OH MY GOD, THE DOGS!!! I ran back to the corner store and there they were, thank God, and very happy to see me.
This is another reason why I don't like to combine errands and dog-walking.
Come to think of it, I have two neighbors who've done that...you are not alone Rose!
And caahyoko, thx for shooting down the troll without using gasoline. -
caaahyoko wrote:
Or even chewing gum . . . .
lol! Wow. No multi-tasking for you! I guess you are one of the people who shouldn't be walking through intersections with an ipod on.
I'm relieved to hear that other people have done the same stupid thing. My poor dogs. I still feel bad about it. -
On a tangent here...
One time a friend had to sleep over because she was a drunken mess and it was too late and too far for her to take the subway.
I went to bed and she was going to watch tv or something. She asked if she could smoke in the house. I told her to go outside (because I didn't want the smell, but I was also afraid she'd burn the flipping house down).
The next day (at about....oh....noon) when we woke up, I couldn't find Jackson anywhere.
When she had gone outside, he slipped into the hallway (I had specifically told her that he was an escape artist).
Poor booboo spent about 8 hours sitting in the hall outside the door without making a peep (or, for that matter, a pee or a poop).
I felt so guilty!
Thankfully he didn't make it all the way outside.
Oh, and Stella got herself locked into the linen closet last week. She decided that my clean sheets and towels make a good place to sleep. Took me about 30 minutes to realize it. -
Oh god, I am completely neurotic about the idea of my cats getting out! In fact I regularly have nightmares about somebody leaving a door open and I realize my cats are gone.
In my last apt which was on the ground floor, I got home one evening and opened one of the front windows for about half an hour. Later on I realized I hadn't seen Aubrey in hours. Couldn't find him anywhere. Retracing my actions after I'd gotten home, I realized with horror that my front window screen had been slid up - my landlady had had guys painting the trim. I ran outside screaming AUBREEYYY!!!! and heard a scared "meow!" in return - he was hiding in the bushes next door. Thank god!!! -
Where did we pick up such weird thought processes? Are we really so intolerant of nature and even other human beings? Wow. Did you ever stop to think that you are, by the simple fact that you have evolved to exist with other human beings and other animals, CAPABLE of dealing with all living organisms? Gasp! Get a grip on your mamalian dna, and pick up a copy of The Book of Chuang Tzu at B&N. (After parking your stroller upstairs, of course)
The "weird thought process" above is typical of the self absorbed dog owners who ARE utterly oblivious and uncaring about the impact their dog has on other people in a crowded urban environment.
The only thing irritating in a store filled with sticky children, muddy pups, cologne-dipped teenagers, and febreeze coated adults is your negative attitude. And they don't make a Claritin for that.
Wheeee! That was fun!
You may not own a dog, but I do, and although I love my dog, I am mature enough to realize that not everyone else will. Nor should anyone be required to love unfamiliar dogs because of some elitist oneness-with-the-universe healy feelie nonsense. Some people *gasp!* have had negative experiences that make them wary of dogs, for good reason. My son was badly bitten by dogs as a toddler..walking down the stairs of our building, minding our own business, when some unsocialized curs burst out of an old lady's apartment and attacked him, sending him to hospital. Today he is wary of dogs, wouldn't you be? He loves my dog, but unfamiliar dogs make him nervous. Can't people respect that?
I have the courtesy and unselfishness not to impose the presence of my dog on unwilling neighbours or shoppers. When walking my dog, I am always aware of other's safety zones and boundaries. If someone wants to say hello to my adorable people loving dog, they will ask. I do not assume that others want to play with my pet or be close to her. So no, I do not take my dog into shops, etc. A good friend of mine recently witnessed a big mutt taking a huge dump inside the Union Square Barnes and Noble. Who wants to deal with that nastiness while shopping in a book store? Disgusting. -
rockhound wrote: You may not own a dog, but I do, and although I love my dog, I am mature enough to realize that not everyone else will. Nor should anyone be required to love unfamiliar dogs because of some elitist oneness-with-the-universe healy feelie nonsense.
WARNING: The following post uses the dogs-and-kids comparison.
I agree with you to a point. No one has to love dogs. No one has to love kids.
But it doesn't really matter, does it? You can love dogs or kids, or you can hate them--fine. But either way, there's a basic social contract that if you live among other people, you also tolerate other people, which means recognizing that you will sometimes be exposed to people/things you don't like, and that you will have to suck it up and deal with it. Because, guess what?, not everybody likes you either and yet they're obligated to tolerate you. (This is the generic "you," not "you, Rockhound.")
Same goes for dog owners and parents. You have to recognize that, living among other people in a city, you will have to be subject to extra inconvenience to make sure as best you can that your kid doesn't run up and kick someone or that your dog doesn't crap on the floor, and that while you are entitled to be cut some slack for honest mistakes and accidents, you don't get to float above your responsibilities on a cloud of superiority because you are caring for A Miracle of Life.
I don't own a dog. My main inconveniences, besides crap on the sidewalk, come from people letting their dogs run on telescoping leashes and tripping me. When it happens, most people are nice and say sorry. A few are entitled or oblivious and don't. Maybe I'm a little irritated, but JEE-sus! Life is too short. I live in a city of 8 million people. Sometimes a dog is going to get in my way.
Honestly it amazes me, between this thread and the rant-about kids one, that we need 500 posts about an issue that boils down to: "Don't be an asshole." Whether you have a kid or a dog or neither. Is it really more complicated than that? -
linusvanpelt wrote: "Don't be an asshole."
Yes, and can we leave it at that?
And I'm not weird, I just have a sense of humor. :roll:
But I will ask those "bothered" by other people/animals: Why don't YOU do something to make your life more pleasant? I don't ask anyone to change their behavior for me, I just avoid them like the plague. Hell, I've got important things to think about, and never enough time to do the things I want to do. I envy you if you actually have enough time to be dwelling on how much complete strangers bother you. -
rockhound wrote:
Yes only on your son who is afraid of dogs after being attacked. Nice
I have the courtesy and unselfishness not to impose the presence of my dog on unwilling neighbours or shoppers. -
linusvanpelt, thank you! The world would actually be a much better place if people just stopped being assholes to each other.
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Rose wrote: Even the most mild-mannered person can suddenly go on a killing spree in a shopping mall, apparently.
Yes, when it comes to humans, the true psychos are sometimes the calmest. Walking time bombs. -
another reason not to leave your dog tied up
(this one has a happy ending, but . . . what a f*up story!)
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