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4th Ave (Park Slope? Gowanus? who cares) re: NOISE — Brooklynian

4th Ave (Park Slope? Gowanus? who cares) re: NOISE

ctrlaltdel
ctrlaltdel
edited November -1 in Park Slope
just how noisy is 4th avenue, and is it more daytime traffic or night?

i looked at that Argyle development on 7th and the only unit I like in my price range is a few floors up, facing 4th ave. i'm SUPER sensitive to street noise, and have written off this location because of it, but i am also making assumptions/have heard conflicting opinions.


what do you folks think? is it trucks and stereos and bs like that, pretty much nonstop?
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  • daver
    daver

    Subject: Re: 4th Ave (Park Slope? Gowanus? who cares) re: NOISE

    ctrlaltdel wrote: i'm SUPER sensitive to street noise,
    You _may_ want to look outside Brooklyn.

    Just sayin'.

    :mrgreen:
  • ctrlaltdel
    ctrlaltdel
    nah, i've lived here for 5 years, i'm not going anywhere. the other properties i'm considering aren't on such main thoroughfares, so it's hard to compare.
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    Stereos, not so much. Trucks, YES! All hours, YES.

    I'm just moving out of a place on the ground floor on 4th ave and 15th, so its a little louder, but you will hear trucks rumbling by.

    Did you look into Vue on 16th?
  • ctrlaltdel
    ctrlaltdel
    out of my price range! looks nice, though....

    thanks for the info on the truck traffic...i wasn't sure if it was just a daytime thing, that wouldn't be a real problem for me since i work so much. good to know that it's constant, i don't think i can hang with a bedroom facing 4th ave.
  • anastasia beaverhausen
    anastasia beaverhausen
    I'm on 4th and the 40s. Lots of traffic noise, the rumble of the subway, people's drunken conversations. Thankfully, I sleep like the dead and nothing bothers me.
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    Yeah, it doesn't bother me so much, but my husband can't fall asleep in the bedroom with the window open. And he lived at Washington Ave and Eastern Pkwy and that never bothered him! So, yeah. Loud. :lol:
  • stacey
    stacey
    Yeah I have to agree 4th Ave is pretty noisy and I can just imagine how bad it will be when they start building the stadium.
  • peanuts
    peanuts
    I'd never live on 4th Avenue because of all the traffic - especially the trucks. I know people are moving there, but I don't get it....
  • redmenace
    redmenace

    Subject: Re: 4th Ave (Park Slope? Gowanus? who cares) re: NOISE

    ctrlaltdel wrote: just how noisy is 4th avenue, and is it more daytime traffic or night?

    i looked at that Argyle development on 7th and the only unit I like in my price range is a few floors up, facing 4th ave. i'm SUPER sensitive to street noise, and have written off this location because of it, but i am also making assumptions/have heard conflicting opinions.


    what do you folks think? is it trucks and stereos and bs like that, pretty much nonstop?
    4th avenue continues to be a truck route. At night it's loud, and they go fast.

    If the windows are triple-glazed, it should not be a problem.
  • dracomom
    dracomom
    Not all the units are listed yet, so you may be able to ask the agent to contact you once they have a unit that fit your price range and not facing 4th Ave. Based on the StreetEasy data 34 units are sold, and 15 units are on current listing. I think there are still 9 units that have not come out for the listing.
  • bohuma
    bohuma
    Hubby and I looked at Argyle too. We really liked it but our mortgage broker said it was out of our price range. We ended up buying at 475 Sterling Place, which is between Washington and Classon. The price per square foot is significantly lower and the parking spaces are less than half the price of those at Argyle. That being said, there is that huge U-Haul on 4th Ave that could see significant truck traffic during the wee smalls.
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    Very loud! Why anyone would pay top dollar to live on 4th Avennue is beyond me. These new buildings may look nice now, but many are built shoddily and soon have all kinds of problems - after the builders and developers are long gone.
  • rtraindweller
    rtraindweller
    It was loud at first between the trucks and the subway. I was on 4th at 22nd and my room faced 4th Ave. I got used to it though after a month or so barely noticed it. What did wake me up at all lovely early hours on weekends was jack hammers :evil:
  • ctrlaltdel
    ctrlaltdel
    i'm glad that i spent some time thinking/asking people about this issue!

    it's off the list!
  • stacey
    stacey
    ctrlaltdel wrote: i'm glad that i spent some time thinking/asking people about this issue!

    it's off the list!
    If you really like the place why not go there during rush hour and see what the traffic is like - maybe they used some thick glass which will keep the sound out.

    Good luck on your search :)
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    That would be nice, Stacey, but if it cost any more money to do, I'd count on them not having done it. I tell you, these buildings are built for as little as possible, as fast as possible, and units sold for as much as possible.
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    Its not so much having amazing glass that solves the problem. Our regular double-paned windows block out most of the noise. (Except jackhammers ;) )

    But the quality of the glass is moot if you want to do something radical like--open your window!!! Maybe some people can stand living in a sealed box all the time, but I need me some "fresh" air.
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    Ahhh!! That fresh 4th Avenue air!! I hear its best during the morning rush.
  • natstar
    natstar
    ^^^sure is. nothing like living off the BQE!

    i used to live on 4th and 12th. after a while you get used to it, the same way you get used to feeling the subway in your apartment...

    I'd think if you weren't on the ground floor it'd be better though?
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    I guess one can get used to anything, eh? But, no offense intended, I bet your place off the BQE was far less expensive than these 4th Avenue places!
  • yoda
    yoda
    4th avenue also has the pollution and particulates that come from the exhaust of cars. I lived their for 6 years. It sucked.
  • natstar
    natstar
    the best part of 4th ave is the price. I do miss that. I paid $550 and lived 2 blocks from the F and R trains. that all ended when the condos went up though

    I look forward to telling my grandchildren about that one day :)

    I think in a few years 4th ave is going to be the next 7th ave. The street is much wider and allows for more parking. once the stadium goes up and as more businesses go in it's going to be untouchable too. if i had the cash i'd buy in too!
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    I don't see the comparison. 7th Avenue has no apartment buildings, and has retained at least some of its neighborhood feeling and character. 4th Avenue, even optimistically thinking, will never be a neighborhood. The new buildings are anonymous, isolated from eachother, and did I mention built cheaply. And if the arena ever goes up, traffic, already bad, will get worse, no? You might be right that it represents a good investment opportunity, but it seems very different from 7th Avenue.
  • natstar
    natstar
    i think in a few years 4th ave will have just as many restaurants, boutiques, and shops. also, as the condos go up that "cheap building quality" will also improve. I had to leave my apartment building so my landlord could renovate and hike up rent. just sayin..

    it won't be as pretty as the 7th ave brownstones, of course.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    i doubt it on 4th ave becoming 7th. it's just not pedestrian friendly enough to encourage people to walk up and down the street. when i go to 4th, it's so i can get to a specific location; when i leave there, i leave 4th, too. more people may live on 4th, but i see them still walking up to 5th for most of what you list. (obviously, there are bars and restaurants on 4th, but i mean for a steady string of pedestrian-oriented businesses.)

    i don't see these major truck-route streets like 4th or atlantic ever changing in that way.
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    Natstar - I really hope you are correct! But I'm afraid I agree with sweet tea.
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    I'm guessing it depends on how permanent or transient the new wave of people paying $2000 plus a month will be. If people with money are there for long enough, businesses catering to them will open. I mean, look at 2nd Ave on the Upper East Side. Egads, if you think traffic is bad on 4th Ave, try riding a bike down 2nd ave in the 70s-50s!! I came down that way the other day and was amazed!
    Yet, up there, there are huge apartment buildings and plenty of shops. I would argue that as grossly over-priced as the large apartment buildings are on 4th Ave, the more of them there are, the more businesses can survive there.

    I'm still glad as hell I'm moving off that street though.
  • booklaw
    booklaw
    I've seen a number of references here to the "cheap quality" of the new apartment buildings on 4th Avenue.

    Is this known fact or unwarranted assumption? What is the basis for these statements?
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    I've watched several of them (not all of them) go up.
  • henrycurtis
    henrycurtis
    I guess i should add that I'm married to someone in the business.
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