2008 Presidental Election: Obama v McCain
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McCain candidacy is a f-cking joke, so is the 'liberal' media.
You would never know it from watching the news, but one of the candidates in this race happens to have been previously implicated in a national scandal involving pressuring regulators to back off of a bank making risky moves with its assets, leading to disaster for investors and an expensive government bailout.
Is there a good reason why no one is mentioning John McCain's Keating Five membership in any of these arguments over who is on the side of regulating risky private banking practices? I know that McCain sort of asked for our forgiveness or something at some point during his "maverick period" around 2000-2003, but since he wants to engage in a debate about who is on the side of government regulation of risky banking practices, I think maybe we're allowed to call him out on this issue. Does anyone believe that if Barack Obama were one of the Keating Five that the Republicans would for some reason hold back from mentioning that fact? -
Here's a speech that Obama gave yesterday that outlines a detailed plan to reform Washington.
[note: it's 22 minutes long]
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McCain, on the other hand, is totally going to reform washington...
...because half of all beltway insiders now work for his campaign, not the govt. -
McCain: "At the center of the problem were the lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats who succeeded in persuading Congress and the administration to ignore the festering problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac..."
McCain's 'presidential transition' appointee lobbied for Freddie up until 1 month ago.
McCain is such a mindless, hypocritical hack. -
Country first!
On McCain's suspend-the-debate stunt:http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014867.php wrote: flailing desperation[/url]. It also makes no sense: he's still giving some speeches, but he has stopped airing ads. Does anyone seriously think that airing ads would seriously impair John McCain's ability to address this crisis? Does he usually wind the ad tapes himself? Does he go around to all the TV stations in order to say "I'm John McCain and I approve this message" in person? Somehow, I don't think so.
He's down in the polls. His "brilliant" VP pick is not wearing well, even in her virtual press seclusion. His responses to a genuine crisis are all over the map. So he decides that rather than scaling back his appearances and being quietly helpful behind the scenes, he will descend on Washington, cameras in tow, and posture.
Josh Marshall has it right:"Bringing the presidential candidates and their press entourages back to Capitol Hill won't speed or improve the process of coming up with a good bailout deal. It will politicize it. That's so transparently obvious that it barely requires stating. And of course that is the point.
Country First, indeed.
By going public with his 'suspension' announcement as a breaking news statement McCain intended to make any agreement between the candidate impossible. Contrast that with Obama's campaign, which apparently tried to get both campaigns to agree on a common set of principles privately before going public. There's no logical reason there can't be a presidential debate while a bailout plan is being negotiated."
—Hilzoy 5:45 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (75) -
Ready on day 1!
Oy
John McCain, willing to suspend debates, but not read a 3-page document.
09.25.08 -- 11:51AM
By Josh Marshall
McCain admits that, as of Tuesday at least, he hadn't had a chance to look at the Paulson plan yet.
Is he kidding? The Paulson plan is like three pages long. -
One thing that is cool is that Obama seems to be capitalizing on this decently, for once. Which is a bit of a coup, if you ask me. Especially given that it was originally McCain that wanted all the debates, and Obama that dragged his feet and shot them all down. Speaking of Audacity, the camp brings up with a straight face the whole only forty days left thing, which of course wouldn't be the case if THEY hadn't pushed it out. And McCain seems to be getting strung up by it to swing. Ha. Ha ha, I say.
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Strange bedfellows on this one. You've got the dems blasting the repugs and McCain in particular because the repugs are going _against_ Bush's plan while the dems want to push the Bushie plan through? Odd, that. Don't know what to think yet. But I'm inclined to think anything that Bush put forward as retarded, if only out of sheer spite and principle. Such as they are.
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daver wrote:
love it
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Kerry is surprisingly awesome in this short clip:
"He said he was going to interrupt his campaign to come down and save the negotiations. Most people believe what he did was interrupt the negotiations to come down and save his campaign." -
damn that is a quite EPIC kerry quote and small talk !!
im impressed ! -
I've always liked Kerry. It's a shame he ran such a crap campaign. Loved this clip AND that it was on Fox.
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I wonder if McCain's melanoma has metastasized to his brain...
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yup:
Erza Klein
THE MAP.
The big political news today is that McCain is pulling out of Michigan. Sources say he's doing so with honor, and in response to "conditions on the ground," but he's nevertheless pulling out.
At this point, the electoral map basically looks like this: Start with the 2004 results. Iowa and New Mexico flip to the Democratic column. Pennsylvania, Colorado, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, North Carolina, and New Hampshire all move into the toss-up column. That puts Obama at a base of 243 electoral votes and McCain at a base of 179. According to Pollster.com, poll averages show Obama ahead in Virginia, Colorado, Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. McCain leads in Indiana and North Carolina. They're tied in New Hampshire. Plug all that in and you have Obama at 329 electoral votes, and McCain at 205.
Which is to say, if McCain is going to win, he's going to have to pull a lot of states back into his column from where they sit right now. That's possible to do. But to win, he needs almost all of them. Meanwhile, assuming Obama holds Pennsylvania, he only needs one of Florida, Ohio, Virginia, or Colorado + New Hampshire to win the election. That's a good place for him to be. And while a week ago, I would've given Ohio to McCain, the economic crisis has cemented Obama's leads in a lot of traditionalist Midwestern states that McCain could otherwise have contested (that, for instance, is what's happened in Michigan). The basic reality here is the trend: The map is shrinking for McCain. But polls are coming out in places like North Carolina and Indiana that suggest Obama is surprisingly viable. So his map is expanding. And he has more money. That, fundamentally, is the position you want to be in right now.
If you feel like screwing around with this on your own, 270toWin.com has a nice electoral map you can play with.
Posted by Ezra Klein on October 2, 2008 3:04 PM -
this north carolinian is shocked to see her state called tied on electoral-vote.com.
shocked.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
and virginia! even more so -- i mean, NC went dem for johnson and carter, but VA hasn't since truman, i think.
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I'm equally shocked about NC.
As for VA, there's been such a population boom in the DC suburbs that the population distribution has dramatically changed. 'liberal VA' is now equaling 'conservative VA' in sheer numbers. -
yes, i know about the demographic shift in VA -- actually, there's a strong argument to be made that a similar shift in the demographics of the south as a whole since the mid-sixties is what has made the south so reliably republican (as opposed to the usual story you hear in the press about poor, racist whites voting against their own economic self-interest because of anger over the civil rights act of 1964).
anyway.
here's a nice bit from gail collins:One thing we now know for sure. Electing John McCain would be God’s gift to the profession of journalism. A story a minute.
Imagine what would happen if a new beetle infested the Iowa corn crop during the first year of a McCain administration. On Monday, we spray. On Tuesday, we firebomb. On Wednesday, the president marches barefoot through the prairie in a show of support for Iowa farmers. On Thursday, the White House reveals that Wiley Flum, a postal worker from Willimantic, Conn., has been named the new beetle eradication czar. McCain says that Flum had shown “the instincts of a maverick reformer” in personally buying a box of roach motels and scattering them around the post office locker room. “I can’t wait to introduce Wiley to those beetles in Iowa,” the president adds.
On Friday, McCain announces he’s canceling the weekend until Congress makes the beetles go away.
Barack Obama would just round up a whole roomful of experts and come up with a plan. Yawn. -
lol
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this is pretty great (especially if you don't remember how les miz ends).
andrew sullivan wrote: Whatever happens, the McCain campaign could never pull this off. Patience, steel... triumph.

from: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/les-misbarack.html -
http://www.techpresident.com/blog/entry/31013/ask_sarah_palin_ca_dems_interactive_billboard_goes_live
Micah L. Sifry wrote: This is an absolute first and frankly it's f---ing brilliant. The California Democratic Party has a giant electronic billboard up somewhere near a Los Angeles-area rally that Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin is doing today that is displaying live text-message questions people are sending in. On top of that, the whole thing is streaming live back onto the web using UStream.tv.
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Candidates as Simpsons:
(just spotted on Daily Kos)
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