Reaching Breaking Point Over the Park Slope PC Police
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Obamanut wrote: [quote=Jamzer][quote=Old Time Brooklyn]"PC Police" ? I don't get the PC part of this. You weren't confronted from someone trying to politically correct you, they were legally correcting you. I'd agree that there's a lot of mouthy Joes in the Slope, but sorry, Obamanut, you seem to be the asshole in this instance.
=D> My thoughts exactly.
Another thing that no one has called out Obamanutter on is the fact that he rants here about going drill sergeant on the person who confronted him, but the toughest thing he ever does is post a rant on this board.
:lame:
Shouldn't you be picking out which pleated corduroys to wear to Ozzie's today?
SNAP!!
I got nothing in response. I'm on my ass. :salut:
I'm just happy you did not go all drill sergeant on me
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Jamzer wrote:
STOP FIGHTING! If he messes up your pretty face, I am NOT marrying you.
SNAP!!
I got nothing in response. I'm on my ass. :salut:
I'm just happy you did not go all drill sergeant on me :-) -
I think you should leave him alone, as he sounds like a disgruntled postal worker.
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I think that while what Obamanut did is debatable, I kind of understand his rage. While I just moved from Park Slope I did feel that in the four years I lived there, from 2004-2008, the quotient of smart-ass, entitled, know-it-alls increased exponentially. I have no statistics to back this up, but emotionally it felt that way. My wife, a teacher, really felt it on the parent side, too. They basically treated her like an employee, because they moved here for the GOOD SCHOOLS. So they had the right to be rude and condescending. Is it that hard to imagine someone acting that way about someone else's dog?
Dave -
About 10 years ago, I used to take my dogs to Prospect Park at night during the winter. I would let them run around just inside the 11th street entrance. It was cold, dark, practically deserted, and before 9pm. My dogs got some exercise and didn't bother anyone. If someone gave me crap about them being off their leashes I would have told them to go f*ck themselves and to go find a hobby. If my dogs were behaving, keeping far out of people's way, not bothering anyone, and I picked up their poop then leave us alone.
Some people have a burning need to control other people and they should really be careful about expressing that need. Some day they may say something to the wrong person and get more than they bargained for. -
And this is Obamanut's point. I know one of these days, my mouth is gonna write a check my ass can't cash. I've been fortunate so far. But nobody, and I mean NOBODY, fucks with my dog. Period.
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caseopele wrote: About 10 years ago, I used to take my dogs to Prospect Park at night during the winter. I would let them run around just inside the 11th street entrance. It was cold, dark, practically deserted, and before 9pm. My dogs got some exercise and didn't bother anyone. If someone gave me crap about them being off their leashes I would have told them to go f*ck themselves and to go find a hobby. If my dogs were behaving, keeping far out of people's way, not bothering anyone, and I picked up their poop then leave us alone.
Exactly. That's all I was getting at.
Some people have a burning need to control other people and they should really be careful about expressing that need. Some day they may say something to the wrong person and get more than they bargained for. -
Maybe the guy was a hall monitor in grade school? He should never come to my neighborhood, he'd probably die of an apoplectic fit.
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Obamanut wrote: [quote=caseopele] Some day they may say something to the wrong person and get more than they bargained for.
Exactly. That's all I was getting at.
Exactly my point too. I have gone for a run in the park at 9 pm and have had a "good" dog run at me like I was a chunk of meat. All the time the owner calling out "she is a nice dog, she just wants to play." Or "Don't look scared he wont hurt you." Well a "good dog" just acting like a "good dog" can knock me over. I don't like dogs, I don't have to.
Now caseopele and Obamanut say that I might "get more than I bargained for" if I say something. I don't want a confrontation with you or your dog. All the more reason to just call 911.
and no I was not a hall monitor nor was I attacked by a dog as a child. -
winstonsmith wrote:
Good idea, call 911 and tell them you want to report a dog running loose and a 'mean' owner. I'm sure the response will be quick and decisive, and the officers (if they do in fact arrive) will in no way stereotype you as the typical wacko Park Slope resident which they all complain about constantly.
Exactly my point too. I have gone for a run in the park at 9 pm and have had a "good" dog run at me like I was a chunk of meat. All the time the owner calling out "she is a nice dog, she just wants to play." Or "Don't look scared he wont hurt you." Well a "good dog" just acting like a "good dog" can knock me over. I don't like dogs, I don't have to.
Now caseopele and Obamanut say that I might "get more than I bargained for" if I say something. I don't want a confrontation with you or your dog. All the more reason to just call 911. -
No, I will just say there is a wild dog.
I will only assume that owner cares more about his dog than his neighbors. -
i care more about my pet than i do about my neighbors. bad example
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brooklynpotter wrote: i care more about my pet than i do about my neighbors. bad example
When the rest of the world say "self absorbed Park Sloper" that is what they are talking about. -
if you're going to say that i'm self absorbed, how about "self absorbed human being"... because i have lived other places than park slope, and i have always liked my cat more than my neighbors.
being insulting isn't nice, please learn some manners
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brooklynpotter wrote: if you're going to say that i'm self absorbed, how about "self absorbed human being"... because i have lived other places than park slope, and i have always liked my cat more than my neighbors.
Sorry
being insulting isn't nice, please learn some manners
plus, you don't know my neighbors
I did not mean to insult, but when I person says they like their pet more than people they are self absorbed.
and I do know your neighbors, they are the people reading this board, the people I see in the streets, the people who work at key food... they are people.
When pets are more important then people the world is upside down. -
winstonsmith, you obviously did not read my whole post. Specifically this part, "If my dogs were behaving, keeping far out of people's way, not bothering anyone, and I picked up their poop then leave us alone." Your example of a dog running up to you in the park has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Also, Park Slope is still in New York City. Not everyone is like me, some people are crazy and might react very differently. All I'm saying is be careful about who you mouth off to, especially in a park after dark. This is common sense when living in a big city. -
caseopele wrote: ....Also, Park Slope is still in New York City. Not everyone is like me, some people are crazy and might react very differently. All I'm saying is be careful about who you mouth off to, especially in a park after dark. This is common sense when living in a big city.
Good advice. If someone is crazy enough to let their pooch run off leash in Prospect Park early in the morning, who knows what else they are capable of. -
winstonsmith,
I am sorry, but since you live in Park Slope and obviously know the off leash rules in the park, I say you either don't run in the park during the legal off leash times since you seem so bothered by a dog coming up to you (and, of course, if you have a fear of dogs, then you have a fear of dogs), or, just deal with it! I mean, yes, if the dog is off leash at the wrong times or in the wrong areas, feel free to call a park ranger (seriously, you are going to call 911 because of an off leash dog with it's owner in a designated off leash hour in a park? Are you kidding me? What a waste of tax money that is!!!).
But, if the dog is off leash at the right times, in the right areas and with it's owner, then deal with it! or, run somewhere else or at a different time. i agree, animals should not be put before human beings, but, IMO, you are being a little outrageous in this area! -
winstonsmith wrote:
I resemble this remark- in general I like animals WAY more than humans. Humans treat everyone else (human or otherwise) like shit, in general. And let's not forget our planet!
I did not mean to insult, but when I person says they like their pet more than people they are self absorbed.
When pets are more important then people the world is upside down.
You actually think the world will turn upside down when people respect HUMANS more than animals??? Maybe if we respected the other living creatures around us instead of eliminating them, we would actually be right side up.
It may be too early in the morning for me to fully express myself here, but the fact is, I like animals more than people. My world is not upside down. -
winstonsmith-
In honor of your fear of dogs, i changed my AV from my dog to my gecko, i hope you like him -
LongTimeSloper wrote: winstonsmith-
I am not afraid of them, I just don't know way they are not kept in the zoos with the rest of the animals
In honor of your fear of dogs, i changed my AV from my dog to my gecko, i hope you like him
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I have met a goldfish that is nice that most people. -
winstonsmith wrote: [quote=LongTimeSloper]winstonsmith-
I am not afraid of them, I just don't know way they are not kept in the zoos with the rest of the animals
In honor of your fear of dogs, i changed my AV from my dog to my gecko, i hope you like him
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I have met a goldfish that is nice that most people.
I understand that. I'm not sure why kids aren't raised in a lab until they prove they're normal then released into society. -
caseopele wrote:
Did you just write this earlier??
Also, Park Slope is still in New York City. Not everyone is like me, some people are crazy and might react very differently. All I'm saying is be careful about who you mouth off to, especially in a park after dark. This is common sense when living in a big city.
"If someone gave me crap about them being off their leashes I would have told them to go f*ck themselves and to go find a hobby. " -
willregistersoon wrote: [quote=caseopele]
Did you just write this earlier??
Also, Park Slope is still in New York City. Not everyone is like me, some people are crazy and might react very differently. All I'm saying is be careful about who you mouth off to, especially in a park after dark. This is common sense when living in a big city.
"If someone gave me crap about them being off their leashes I would have told them to go f*ck themselves and to go find a hobby. "
I'm pretty sure that telling someone to go f*ck themselves is a hell of a lot different from giving them a beatdown. I know using the f word can hurt someone's feelings but it's not really as painful as a black eye. :roll: -
My dog was attacked by another dog that was off its leash. My dog was on its leash. My dog was a puppy at the time and could not be properly socialized afterwards. I can introduce him to another dog, if both dogs are on leash and are under control, but if a dog just comes up on us he attacks. My dog is never off leash. I used to avoid the park just during off lead hours but since my dog snatched up a cute little maltase (sp?) that was off its lead mid-day and snapped its back in front of its family (that included a young child) I never take him into the park. I have kids that play with him and my kids friends play with him. He loves people, cats and horses but hates other dogs. If you or your kid came up and started to pet him (though I’d rather you’d ask first) he’d wag his tail but if your dog comes up on my dog and I don’t see it first my dog will kill it. I would not stand for some one getting in my face over some petty BS but please everyone keep your dog on its leash. Thanks
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i feel so bad for your dog, can he get paxil or something? (i'm not being facetious, my avatar should tell you how much i love the animals)
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He’s happy with dogs he’s met properly and at all other times. I walk him very early in the day and very late at night. I’d hate to medicate him because someone else is being irresponsible. Am I wrong?
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i think if you can't bring your dog to the park then he has issues, and perhaps he could be happier. i don't know, i always anthropomorphise, and i know my kitty would likely benefit from some sort of drugs.
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Bklyn.X wrote: Am I wrong?
Yep, you are. Sounds less like a problem with your dog and more like a problem with you as an owner. You need to take the time to train your dog correctly. First of all, if you know your dog is prone to violence, you should be carrying pepper spray with you at all times in case of an emergency. Second, I don't buy your explanation. It is true that dogs tend to sometimes feel more threatened/insecure meeting another dog when they're on a leash (as opposed to off), but that has to do with their proximity to their owner (they think they're protecting you), lack of mobility, and the pressure they feel upon their throat by the owner's tension on the leash.
The combination of a poorly trained dog, squeezing pressure on the dog's throat (their main vulnerable point), a nervous owner who doesn't know how to handle his or her own dog, and the introduction of a strange dog often makes the leased dog agitated and defensive. Dogs are hardwired to respond to certain stimuli, and the combination above, when applied to an already large/aggressive dog, is a formula for disaster. -
brooklynpotter wrote: i think if you can't bring your dog to the park then he has issues, and perhaps he could be happier. i don't know, i always anthropomorphise, and i know my kitty would likely benefit from some sort of drugs.
Are you serious? Cats are basically feral animals; if you want to make it happy, let it out into the alleyway to answer the call of the wild.
I think most people's perceptions of a cat having "problems" stem from their failure to notice that cats hate human beings and want to be left alone.
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