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Residential Parking Permits being discussed again. - Page 5 — Brooklynian

Residential Parking Permits being discussed again.

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  • parking permits are simply an additional tax, they will not assure you a parking space.

    ...it all depends on what problem you are attempting to solve.

    If you are the city and want more revenue: They work.

    If you are a random car owner and want to park somewhere you don't live: You are screwed.

    If you live in the neighborhood you want to park in: They simply charge you to circle the block over and over ...something you used to be able to do for free.

    If you are a pedestrian/biker: They have seemingly no effect on the number of "evil" cars you have to avoid.
  • Personally, I'd just rather pay more taxes then have to put some sticker on my car that allows me to park somewhere but will exclude me from parking elsewhere unless I want to pay through the nose for some parking garage or be stuck running out to feel the new meter every one or two hours (and those meters aren't cheap btw, which I'm not complaining about, I'm just saying, they do take credit cards which is cool)
  • I think parking permits will be a boon to parking garages.

    I'm going to invest in one of those.
  • whynot_31 wrote: I think parking permits will be a boon to parking garages.

    I'm going to invest in one of those.
    I'm just going to park my car in your dining room. You'll never even notice it.
  • Is your car also spotless?

    ...you aren't going to visit it, are you?
  • whynot_31 wrote: Is your car also spotless?

    ...you aren't going to visit it, are you?
    It's covered in leaves and bird poop. Dude will love it.
  • whynot_31 wrote: Is your car also spotless?

    ...you aren't going to visit it, are you?
    It's covered in leaves and bird poop. Dude will love it.
  • he'd roll in it.

    ...as long as you aren't going to visit it, and then kill me for being male, I'll take your car.
  • he'd roll in it.

    ...as long as you aren't going to visit it, and then kill me for being male, I'll take your car.
  • I'm shocked at how many people are for additional taxes and fees. Whether it's getting monies from parking permits or the rich. Personally, I'd love to see tax and spending reforms. I don't mind paying taxes, but not for subsidizing stadiums, tax abatements for new housing or any other corporate welfare projects. Plus, the corruption...there's a reason why NYS has a high rate of tax and cost-of-living.
  • I think everyone is missing the boat entirely. Permits, schmermits! They won't work, and you would kill businesses in the area if you tried any kind of permit parking during the day. Park Slope used to have public parking lots way back when (mostly along 5th Ave), and not the kind that cost $20 a day. They were municipal lots that were cheap, but they were closed down and built upon. People in community should be demanding that there be adequate parking built in to every new housing unit that goes up. Even small condos. All those monstrosities along 4th Avenue should have several floors of parking built in, city subsidized so residents and visitors alike can park in there for the same price as the meters outside. At least they'd serve some useful purpose that way.
  • Naidre'sParkSlope wrote: I think everyone is missing the boat entirely. Permits, schmermits! They won't work, and you would kill businesses in the area if you tried any kind of permit parking during the day. Park Slope used to have public parking lots way back when (mostly along 5th Ave), and not the kind that cost $20 a day. They were municipal lots that were cheap, but they were closed down and built upon. People in community should be demanding that there be adequate parking built in to every new housing unit that goes up. Even small condos. All those monstrosities along 4th Avenue should have several floors of parking built in, city subsidized so residents and visitors alike can park in there for the same price as the meters outside. At least they'd serve some useful purpose that way.
    any business owner who thinks that most of their business comes from people who drive to their store/restaurant needs their head examined.

    I love how everyone is so confident that permits won't work, you know, as opposed to the perfect system we have now.

    Adequate parking for new housing units is zero. You don't need a car to live in park slope. Providing parking spaces will only result in more cars and traffic in the neighborhood and would make it even more difficult to find a parking space if you really must drive to blue ribbon.
  • Gotta agree with V. If I didn't need a car for certain reasons, I wouldn't own one. I almost never drive to Park Slope or Manhattan unless it's for something too cumbersome to carry on a subway. I long for the day when I can sell/donate the damn thing.
  • flattery will get you everywhere, my dear.
  • Well, myself and every other restaurant owner in Park Slope would be able to confirm that we watch our customers run out to feed the meters while they are having their meals. So, if you think that people don't come from all over Brooklyn to visit our wonderful restaurants, and that it helps business because they do, then perhaps I'm not alone in needing my head examined. Listen, l agree with less cars in general. But since they are a reality that's not going away, creative solutions are needed, that are not merely ways for the city to issue more tickets and rip off residents and non-residents alike for more of their hard-earned bucks.

    I don't even get what all the fuss is anyway. Parking hassles, traffic, it's all part of owning a car. If those things make you crazy, then you probably shouldn't own one. But if you drive, and you don't like how things are, I don't think the rest of the world needs to jump through hoops to accommodate you. So parking in the Slope stinks, as it does in many other places. I lived in Bay Ridge for 15 years, and trust me, it was worse. But did I try and get the city to add more regulations to make my life easier? How absurd! Aren't all the tickets they issue for meters and alternate side, and parking 2 inches too close to a pump enough? No, I allowed myself more time to park and understood that was part of life in the big city!
  • Vidro, perhaps you might be missing the notion that many folks from elsewhere in Brooklyn (either from nearby neighborhoods or from further away) come to Park Slope and other well-stocked neighborhoods for their various shopping, dining and services needs.

    These folks need meters, at least on the commercial streets, and that's what I believe Naidre was addressing above.
  • Naidre wasn't talking about parking meters, at least not at first. Her contention was that permits would kill businesses, which is laughable.

    her evidence that permits would kill businesses is that people feed parking meters, which is equally nonsensical.

    the exact parameters of any RPP program have yet to be decided, but no one is suggesting that metered parking would be removed to allow for permit parking.

    Independent of any RPP program, meter rates should be increased in order to increase parking turnover, which would result in more people being able to park and shop along 5/7th aves.
  • Meter rates have been increased:


    Another fare hike! Parking meters go sky high in Slope

    By Ben Muessig
    The Brooklyn Paper


    Parking in Park Slope got much pricier this week — but it also could get a bit easier.

    In hopes of freeing up parking spaces on traffic-clogged Fifth and Seventh avenues, the city jacked up peak-hour rates on parking meters as part of a six-month pilot program that began on Monday.

    Workers have recalibrated parking meters to match the citywide base rate of $.75 per hour (up from the previous rate of $.50 per hour), and implemented a prime-time fee of $1.50 per hour between noon and 4 pm every Monday through Saturday.

    Proponents told The Brooklyn Paper that the higher fees will stop drivers who park on Fifth Avenue between Sackett and Third streets, and Seventh Avenue between Lincoln Place and Sixth Street from lollygagging — making it easier to find spaces on the thruways and potentially bringing more customers to neighborhood shops.
  • They should be at least $2.00 and hour 9AM - 7PM
  • So, we should pay MORE per hour than the going city wide rate?
  • please, I was down in the east village & turtle bay area and it was 50 cents for fifteen minutes with a two hour limit and the meters take credit cards.
  • everything should be free! Free and plentiful!
  • LongTimeSloper wrote: ...Parking in Park Slope got much pricier this week — but it also could get a bit easier...Proponents told The Brooklyn Paper that the higher fees will stop drivers who park on Fifth Avenue between Sackett and Third streets, and Seventh Avenue between Lincoln Place and Sixth Street from lollygagging — making it easier to find spaces on the thruways and potentially bringing more customers to neighborhood shops.
    Lollygagging?!? Something about that word is off-putting in this context - Unless the city is to only issue licenses to people who have a "legitimate" need for a car - anyone of legal age with a license should be able to park at a legal spot without busybodies wondering if they're lollygagging or not.

    I would assume most of the taken metered spots are local storeowners and workers who park and feed the meters all day.

    I'm gonna assume that anyone willing to drive into the parking/traffic hellhole that is ParkSlope during business hours has shit to do - and are staying just long enough to do what they gotta do before getting out of there.
  • I think the meters should be more expensive than the private parking lots. One should pay a premium for parking anywhere on the commercial strip.


    Free parking is the scourge of America! Really!!!!!!!!
  • State Senator Daniel Squadron talked about RPP on WNYC today with Brian Lehrer. It's a good listen.

    http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2009/06/08/segments/133600
  • Has anyone seen a "meter maid" at 2AM?

    I doubt it seriously.

    That is reality.

    They most certainly do work at night. My car was towed at 2:45am last year for being too close to a fire hydrant(?). Come sit out on the benches on Plaza Street on the Prospect H side after midnight! You'll see a steady stream of tow trucks.
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