Rep. Wilson calls Obama a liar -then shuts down his website

pokersloper wrote: [quote=modsquad]Carnivore, I can't imagine how you can lump Joe Scarborough in with Rush Limbaugh.
Better start thinking analog instead of digital.

Mod,

It is safer for Carnivore to stereotype then to discuss issues. Obama is leading very poorly, so Carnivore points to her stereotypes of what she thinks a republican is rather then discussing the daunting tasks, promises and needs that are before this country.

I have laid out lists of issues that Obama has not addressed or has addressed poorly, Carnivore talks about Limbaugh and republican stereotypes. That is all the proof you need that some libs are really worried and disappointed about Obama's performance.
Of course liberals are disappointed in some aspects of Obama's performance, because despite what the right wing claims, Obama is not, nor has he ever claimed to be a liberal. He ran as a pragmatic centrist, and that's how he's been governing.

I've got to tell you, pokersloper, your tone is coming off a bit like this lady:

Carnivore wrote: [quote=pokersloper]And by missing my point completely Carnivore, you have proven how incapable you are of stepping back and considering your views. I brought up Wright to point out that stereotyping and looking for the "gotcha" moment doesn't get us very far. Instead, you see the name Wright written and just assume I talk politics the way you do - with stereotypes and misleading comments. You can discuss politics that way and refuse to consider fairly my views, clearly that is your style.

pokersloper wrote: The same way that Obama has been friendly with former terrorists, Rev. Wright and others on the loony left, certainly there are folks on the right who have been friendly with right wing scumbags.

The fact that Obama's pastor has said things most Americans disagree with is hardly equivalent to prominent Republicans basing actual policy decisions on what right wing talking heads tell gullible Americans about what to believe.

gullible Americans? like the women at Planned Parenthood who were told by Obama that the first law he signs is an abortion rights law?

gullible Americans? - like the gays and lesbians who were promised that don't ask don't tell would be revoked?

gullible Americans? - like those who actually believed that Obama would publish torture photographs that the military was publicly advising could cause world riots.

gullible Americans? - like the ones who were told that Obama will pass universal health care without having to pay for it.

gullible Americans? that is funny.

Both parties cater to their extreme lefts and rights. If you can't find equal fault in your team, then you aren't looking hard and more to the point, you don't care to make your team better and stronger.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=pokersloper][quote=modsquad]Carnivore, I can't imagine how you can lump Joe Scarborough in with Rush Limbaugh.
Better start thinking analog instead of digital.

Mod,

It is safer for Carnivore to stereotype then to discuss issues. Obama is leading very poorly, so Carnivore points to her stereotypes of what she thinks a republican is rather then discussing the daunting tasks, promises and needs that are before this country.

I have laid out lists of issues that Obama has not addressed or has addressed poorly, Carnivore talks about Limbaugh and republican stereotypes. That is all the proof you need that some libs are really worried and disappointed about Obama's performance.
Of course liberals are disappointed in some aspects of Obama's performance, because despite what the right wing claims, Obama is not, nor has he ever claimed to be a liberal. He ran as a pragmatic centrist, and that's how he's been governing.

I've got to tell you, pokersloper, your tone is coming off a bit like this lady:





Whenever Carnivore gets backed into a corner he resorts to sexual humiliation. Implying that you are a shrill "woman", to be scorned and snickered at. I'm sure hes' working on a picture representing you with a dick in your mouth being the --------------he is.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=modsquad]Carnivore, A difference of opinion between Scarborough and Zbigniew Brzezinski paints forever Scarborough into a right wing loony bin?
Are you saying Arafat never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity? Zbigniew Brzezinski was part of the weakest representation of American government the world has ever seen. Many of our problems today can be laid at the Wimps feet.

No, I think the vast majority of Americans today would agree that our current problems can be firmly laid at Bush's feet.

there is is, democratic pres, house and senate, and still blaming bush. The buck stops with Obama.

Carnivore took a day trip out of NYC and took this picture.

[quote=modsquad]Carnivore took a day trip out of NYC and took this picture.



very funny. water just came out of my mouth!

pokersloper wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=modsquad]Carnivore, A difference of opinion between Scarborough and Zbigniew Brzezinski paints forever Scarborough into a right wing loony bin?
Are you saying Arafat never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity? Zbigniew Brzezinski was part of the weakest representation of American government the world has ever seen. Many of our problems today can be laid at the Wimps feet.

No, I think the vast majority of Americans today would agree that our current problems can be firmly laid at Bush's feet.

there is is, democratic pres, house and senate, and still blaming bush. The buck stops with Obama.
Obama is responsible for addressing the problems that Bush's administration created, yes. But the root of the problems lie with Bush, not from 30 years ago, as modsquad claimed.

pokersloper wrote: [quote=modsquad]Carnivore took a day trip out of NYC and took this picture.



very funny. water just came out of my mouth!

What? Yins aint' drinkin Shine yet? It's after 12.

Carnivore wrote:
Obama is responsible for addressing the problems that Bush's administration created, yes. But the root of the problems lie with Bush, not from 30 years ago, as modsquad claimed.

I'd hate to take a history class from you.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=modsquad][quote=Carnivore]
Obama is responsible for addressing the problems that Bush's administration created, yes. But the root of the problems lie with Bush, not from 30 years ago, as modsquad claimed.

I'd hate to take a history class from you.
Coming from someone who'd like to blame our current economic troubles on the Carter administration, I think I can live with that.
Your putting words in my mouth, probably among other things, but I'll just say the Middle East nightmare can be laid at Carter's feet.

modsquad wrote: Your putting words in my mouth, probably among other things, but I'll just say the Middle East nightmare can be laid at Carter's feet.

[citation needed]

Carnivore wrote: Sorry if I'm not going to take the time to assemble video clips of prominent Repugs spouting exactly that kind of nonsense, but you know damned well they're out there.

Ditto

modsquad wrote: Well a good part of it anyway.

modsquad wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=modsquad]Well a good part of it anyway.

A good part of it can be laid at the feet of every U.S. President since WWII.
Make up your mind you said I can't go back 30 years. Now you're going back 60 or 70.
You're deliberately obfuscating. The Iraq war and our current economic troubles have their roots in the past 8 years, not the past 30. The Middle East situation in general (primarily regarding the Israel-Palestine situation) has it's roots much deeper than that. Neither began with the Carter administration.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=modsquad][quote=Carnivore][quote=modsquad]Well a good part of it anyway.

A good part of it can be laid at the feet of every U.S. President since WWII.
Make up your mind you said I can't go back 30 years. Now you're going back 60 or 70.
You're deliberately obfuscating. The Iraq war and our current economic troubles have their roots in the past 8 years, not the past 30. The Middle East situation in general (primarily regarding the Israel-Palestine situation) has it's roots much deeper than that. Neither began with the Carter administration.
You my friend deliberately edited a post to make it look like I was stupid enough to blame Carter for the Iraqi wars.