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Sushi done right? — Brooklynian

Sushi done right?

canyontothesky
edited November -1 in Park Slope
Nigiri sushi is traditionally supposed to be one bite. The fish is supposed to be small, and good sushi chefs even make the pieces smaller or bigger depending on the size of the client's mouth. The rice ball underneath should also be small, and the rice should be losely packed, so that if it touches soy sauce or your mouth, it falls apart. The slice should basically be the same size as the rice ball.

But now it's a trend to have the biggest, thickest, densest pieces possible, and it usually comes at a sacrifice to quality. I've eaten sushi at both Ten and JPan, both highly reccomended places, and both were not good. I tried Ten twice just to give it the benefit of the doubt, but not only were their pieces huge, but also not fresh at all, some pieces I couldn't even rip apart with my teeth, unbelievably. And last night at JPan, the fish extended far past the sushi rice. Maybe some people like it this way, but to me, bigger does not equal better. The places I've had real, good sushi are Ushiwakamaru in the village and Tokyo Bay in TriBeCa.

So I was wondering if anyone knows where they do it right, where the fish is fresh and everything is excellent and correctly sized, in the Slope if it exists here, otherwise Brooklyn in general? I've noticed that some of the most highly reccomended places might be favorites because they favor quantity over quality, and I'd like to just find the quality. Thanks!
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  • We love jpan, the fish is fresh and tastes good, does it really matter that the fish hangs over the rice?? And, I don't love jpan because "bigger is better", I love it because of the taste and freshness
  • in my opinion, oshima is the best.

    they are on 7th between berkeley and lincoln place.

    top quality fish done right.

    give them a try...i'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
  • I also had some not-so-good sushi at Ten -- like you said, good sushi fish pieces should not have fibers (or what tastes more like gristles) that you have to chew very hard. And several pieces I had at Ten were like that. That usually means the sushi chef did not cut the fish correctly.

    I had some pretty good sushi at decent prices at Taro Sushi. The temperature of the rice is correct (lukewarm) and the rice is cooked to the right doneness. Taro is on Dean St. between 5th Ave and Flatbush.
  • I will second Oshima. And give Geido a try.
  • Go to Taro. Make sure you have the owner Sano serve you at the counter and ask him to serve you nigri Japanese style. He should oblige.
  • I know that those SUSHI restaurant in Park Slope is not Japanese.(Most of them are from China) except TARO or GEIDO or KAPPA SAKE HOUSE (Former SAKURA CAFE) I think It's really your choice to like the American style big sushi or the Japanese size small one. But, most important part is NOT A SIZE. I'm from Tokyo that where the SUSHI originally from and I'm sooo worry about that is those non Japanese chef has well trained about sushi or row fish self? In my country, to be come a SUSHI chef, you need to have seriers training and long enough experience to handle non cooked fish. I really think size is not matter.
  • Wow, thanks for the recs everyone! I will try those out.

    LTS and marku, no I guess it isn't really about the size, but the size usually indicates skill level because a real, trained chef like marku mentioned wouldn't make sushi that large. I just find that it goes hand in hand. If a real sushi chef made excelent sushi larger, I guess it would be ok. But the other thing is that you are supposed to eat nigiri with your hands, and I think it looks sloppy to be double dipping a piece of sushi because it's so large, you know? Mostly I just want higher quality, and as albertitto agreed, Ten ain't it!

    I'll look up Oshima, Geido and Taro, and Kappa, and get back to you soon!
  • Blue Ribbon Sushi on 5th Avenue. Hands down the best sushi in Brooklyn. You'd have to go to Manhattan to somewhere like Nobu to find better. Of course, be prepared to pay for it.
  • I'll second Blue Ribbon. Their sushi and sashimi is actually bite-sized. You're not wrestling to get some over-sized piece of fish into your mouth. Also, their dine-in-brooklyn prix fixe is still in effect, so while you can spend a TON of money there, you can also have a full three course meal for a reasonable price.
  • TARO.

    I've also gulped down a 6 inch anago nigiri in one bite, in Tokyo. Size dont matter.
  • Ten is very good. Kiku on 7th avenue sucks and was shut down by the board of health last year. Don't be such a sushi snob.
  • I've heard nothing but good things about Taro. This is coming from someone living in Clinton Hill that only wishes she was closer to Taro!
  • I think Taro is not that special but much better then many other sushi place. Why? The owner is Japanese & he know the row fish. Most of Sushi place that have big sign of SUSHI or JAPANESE is non Japanese. For me sushi have to be one bite size and rice must be small. If you really want to have good sushi go to midtown in the city. Blue Ribbon is ok compare to them. (TAKE SUSHI, YASUDA, SEKI, SUSHI DEN, NOBU NEXT DOOR)
  • Size and freshness simply aren't related. If a piece is big and it's not fresh, cutting it into smaller pieces is not going to solve the problem.

    Bad fish is bad fish.

    Oshima on 7th has big pieces and used to always be the best in the Slope in my opinion. But the chef left, and it's not as good. But when he was there the pieces were huge AND they were delicious and fresh. The fact is nigri portions are small has more to do with profit margin than it does with taste or tradition.
  • The nigiri portion is not with profit it is more for tradition. And big portion sushi place can not use high quality fish as toro or kanpachi or shima-aji..... those special fish from Japan cost alot, so impossible to use with big size.
  • I did not know that, but it makes sense since I usually prefer salmon and yellow tail, which can be big and still taste good. Unfortunately with sushi it seems the more sophisticated my tastes get, the less happy I am because I'm harder to please.
  • Does anyone know if Taro uses wild caught salmon or farmed? All the places around here use farmed, and its awful because the fish are so fatty they're practically falling apart (I have had salmon where it falls apart.. awful). I'm planning to go to Taro for dinner tonight!
  • Went to Taro tonight. Was some of the better sushi I've had, but wasn't overwhelmingly so. Going to try the others soon!
  • Try Kappa's Hako sushi or rolls. It's really good! They serve real home style Japanese cooking that you will love it too. the salmon need to have special treatment to eat row. Many sushi place who have no real chef don't know how. I think that is real problem. Be careful to eat unsafe salmon sushi.
  • Oshima is my favorite in the Slope - was there last night! - but even they can be off. The last two times I've been there, the white tuna was fibrous/stringy. Their pieces have also gotten bigger - yesterday the yellowtail was comically large and unwieldy. I like most of their rolls and overall, it's good fish, but it ain't perfect.

    Wanted to like Ten, went twice, was underwhelmed.

    Wish I had the money to do Blue Ribbon every time the sushi craving hit...
  • I've never tried sushi.
    Any recommendations where and how to start off.
  • Taro is great. I really like them - always fresh and always good. Would be my top choice but they are kinda far for me.

    I don't like Ten - we have gond there twice and both times were just Meh. Not bad but not good enough to go back.

    I really like the Kiku on 7th between 15th and 16th - it's the take out one. Everything seems really fresh and we are really happy with the service. I have heard they aren't Japanese but I'm not French and I make really good souffle so if you are trained, and the fish is fresh, I think that's what matters most.

    Also, I should note, I don't eat a lot of fish sushi - I tend to get maybe 1 roll of fish and 1 roll of veggie or more veggie rolls if my hubby is eating too. We are vegitarians so we avoid too much fish.

    I LOVE the veggie tempura roll at this Kiku.
  • Went back to Oshima this weekend, and I think it's still the best in the Slope, even if the chef left.

    I'm so confused about Kiku on 7th. So many people like it and it's the closest sushi place to where I live. But it's always disappointing. If it wasn't close I'd never go. The spicy tuna roll is never remotely spicy. Believe me, if I'm saying it's not spicy it really isn't. It's so disappointing. And the handrolls don't have crispy seaweed. It's tough and chewy.

    Has anyone else noticed this?
  • oshima rocks.
  • So, I went to Geido this weekend. My boyfriend loved the atmosphere. The head chef made our sushi, but I was unimpressed as the rice was too densely packed, in general the nigiri felt too heavy as compared to Taro. On the way home we passed Oshima which was deserted at 10:30 on a Saturday night, not a single person in there, and they close at 11:30. But I think we'll try them this weekend since everyone raves about them. Also I had Yamato delivery, which was pretty good, but their udon was not.
  • According to Japan's Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, less than 10% of Japanese restaurants in the U.S. are owned by Japanese people or those of Japanese decent.
  • Julius Orange wrote: According to Japan's Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, less than 10% of Japanese restaurants in the U.S. are owned by Japanese people or those of Japanese decent.
    I would bet that percentage is much higher in New York, although there's definitely plenty of Chinese and Korean sushi.
  • I thought the people at Jpan were japanese, am I wrong?
  • It really doesn't matter what their nationality is. Some people insist
    that the food preparer's ethnicity must match that of the food, but this is nonsense as long as they follow sushi tradition.

    The family that runs Le Cirque is Italian. I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about the quality of the French food there because Italian people were making it.
  • At the risk of initiating a Stone Park redux, I will say that Kiku btw 15/16 is the closest sushi to us and we've eaten there many times. It's a bit pricey for standard, decent sushi. However, I have witnessed some serious hygiene issues amongst the staff while walking by more than once. I will just say that they involved a staffperson, a finger, and a nose. I have not been back, but my husband continues to go there.
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