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Municipal Arts Society Presentation on Atlantic Yards — Brooklynian

Municipal Arts Society Presentation on Atlantic Yards

danaeo
danaeo
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
The Muncipal Arts Society of New York will present its presentation of Atlantic Yards titled "Can it work for Brooklyn."

Thursday, June 15
6:30-8:30 pm

at Hanson Place Central United Methodist Church
144 Saint Felix Street (at Hanson Place)

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  • danaeo
    danaeo
    Correction: "The MAS will give a presentation on its CRITIQUE of the Atlantic Yards Project."

    (That's what the Preview button is for.)
  • ratnerville4ever
    ratnerville4ever
    What is the Municipal Arts Society?
  • steveo
    steveo
    ratnerville4ever wrote: What is the Municipal Arts Society?
    http://mas.org/AboutMAS/aboutMAS.cfm
  • ratnerville4ever
    ratnerville4ever
    Group Calls for Major Changes in Atlantic Yards Plan
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/16/nyregion/16yards.html


    MAS says FCR's current plan "won't work;" panel, crowd pile on criticism
    http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/mas-says-fcrs-current-plan-wont-work.html
  • steveo
    steveo
    ratnerville4ever wrote: Group Calls for Major Changes in Atlantic Yards Plan
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/16/nyregion/16yards.html
    I like the Ratner exec's comment: 
    James P. Stuckey, the Forest City executive in charge of Atlantic Yards, was lukewarm on the presentation, saying that it was "a nice thing to say that we're going to come up with five design principles but ignore the fact that there's a billion dollars of cost in infrastructure and land acquisition" associated with the project.
    But wouldn't have "F**k you, MAS, you can't make me," been more succint?
  • dailyheights
    dailyheights
    Barwick said the Society assessed Atlantic Yards using five “design criteria”: does it “respect the existing neighborhoods”; does it “eliminate streets”; does it “create a real public park”; does it “promote lively streets”; and does it “choke” traffic.
    Are "eliminate streets" and "promote lively streets" both positives??
    By those criteria, Atlantic Yards earned a score of 1 out of 4, according to architect and planner John West, who gave the Society’s PowerPoint presentation at Thursday night’s forum.
    Weren't there FIVE design criteria? Also, I wasn't able to determine exactly WHICH ONE OF THE FIVE criteria they think FCR has met. Eliminate streets? I guess I didn't read carefully enough.
    But West’s presentation began ominously — showing that Atlantic Yards’ 8.7 million square feet is the equivalent of “three Empire State Buildings, 23 Williamsburgh Savings Bank buildings, or 2,200 brownstones — which is roughly the entire population of Prospect Heights.”
    Wow.
  • danaeo
    danaeo
    Municipal Arts contends that the one criteria that FCR has met (to a degree) is the creation of lively streets. But, of course, that assessment is based on models of the project that FCR showed MAS and the press, but which the public has never had an opportunity to see.

    Beats me how they can eliminate streets, design essentially private enclaves of open space, and provide access and egress for thousands of cars and still be friendly to the public.

    On the other hand, 17,000 people will be exiting at the same time after games. Now, that'll be lively.
  • pete_c
    pete_c
    So did anyone go?
  • ratnerville4ever
    ratnerville4ever
    pete_c wrote: So did anyone go?
    500 people or so went.

    here is a blow by blow report:
    http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/mas-says-fcrs-current-plan-wont-work.html

    and more:
    http://atlanticyardsreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/mas-presentation-on-design-principles.html
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