Franklin Park Bar... Closing?

That's pretty nutty, I thought they were doing well?

There are notices up on the doors of both the big bar at franklin park and the burger place. I don't remember the wording exactly, but it's something about it being dangerous and immediately perilous to life. There's a more detailed note up (or there was last night) at FP, about there being no certificate of occupancy, and the place needing an inspection by the department of buildings.

The actual bar address seems ok, so I'm not sure what that part of the violation is about.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?boro=3&houseno=618&street=ST+john's+place&requestid=0&s=A03C41B885B461E4F46BD08866A7430E

I ran into Tolly at Cornelius today and got the direct scoop. There was a mixup with the permits they have. As I understand it, when the FDNY inspector came, they now want to consider both the new burger place and the original bar annex as the same "space", which now accommodates more people than their original permit (for the bar space only) allowed for. This will hopefully all be straightened out within the next few days or so, but alas, no burgers today.

dee wrote: There's an NYC notice to vacate on the front door to residential part of that building too. How does that fit in?

No idea, but Tolly made the whole thing seem like a major inconvenience, but probably not more than that when I spoke to him today.

Updates from Toly:

Toly on 3/10 wrote: This is a latest update about our case.
We had meeting today with commissioner of DoB and he was actually very helpfull person and give us direction how to fix our problem, its not a quick fix but we will fallow his direction at least he give us a clear solution , we need to get Place of Assembly permit for 285 people , but meantime to lift stop work order we need reduce amount of seat in big bar and get Fier Department sign off on kitchen, so we can start cooking, hope we will get our new test soon , because the last week test was canceled by DoB shut down
He was question our architects why they don't apply for PA in the beginning which totally make sense , specially when I was asking for it in the beginning, so the answers from them was absurd and just make no sense at all, but I can't change this now but I will make sure never used them again regardless they did many job for me before and I have no such a problem like this

Toly on 3/12 wrote: We have kitchen inspection on 22 and we meet with commissioner again yesterday he approved all temporary changes so we moving right direction and hope we can open dutch boy on 24 and getting paper work approved for Place of Assembly for both bars by the beginning of April

Doubtful since Toly said "hope we can open dutch boy on 24 and getting paper work approved for Place of Assembly for both bars by the beginning of April"

I, in no way, understand your post.

catwalkertexasranger wrote: Great Adventure is in PA not Brooklyn.

Great Adventure is in NJ, not PA.

That is all.

Mamacita wrote: [quote=xlizellx]I, in no way, understand your post.

best line of the month!


I hope I look that good with a pancake on my head. My post was an example of many things. First being the inability to transfer anger into a typed form here is another try this time without single malt.

The National Electric Code(NEC) has federal standards for Places Of Assembly(POA). Churches, movie theaters, night clubs,ect. The Authority Having Juristiction (AHJ), the AHJ in this case NYCDOB/FDNY. The AHJ can impose a higher standard but never a lesser one as they are doing here. There are very clear rules about lighting,exits and safety systems that must be in place at POA's of @275 people. The architect being used by the owner of Franklin Park/ Dutchboy should be using the section of the NEC./NFPA 72. If and when there is an accident/fire or robbery at this location I would hope that anyone harmed would sue for damages as a result of poor code compliance. The doors,signage and safety systems at a POA with a capacity of 275 look much different from the ones currently in use at the 3 Franklin Park building. As in recent tragic accidents in bars and nightclubs where there is loss of life the code violations are many and deadly. Curious how a person in the restroom at Franklin Park knows there is a fire condition inside Dutch Boy? He or she should know if that is the exit they entered and could use during an emergency.

I just walked by and the notices were still on the door. are those coming down tonight or something?

Burgerking- So, you were by there today? Because she posted this on FB this morning...

lobster rolls franklin park 5-9 come by early i think i will sell out quick....

Ok- so what I'm thinking is- the kitchen's open- the actual SPACE is not.

I'll be there tonight support and enjoy Michelle's lobsta roll. :bounce: