Getting spat at because of who i am
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Holla peno wrote: ]Next. That is, unless you'd like us to talk about the obvious subtext here, being "I'm a young entitled white guy and I'm gonna flog the fact that I'm Jewish in order to seem somehow oppressed even though everyone and g-d knows that most of the non-Hasidic Jews in this country are middle class."
You sound like you got a little hate going on there yourself. The guy is trying to think of any reason at all why people might be spitting on him. I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder about any aspect of one's appearance or racial/ethnic background. If he were fat or walked with a cane, he might (appropriately) wonder if he were being targeted for these things.
"Plus I'm going to wildly calculate that a lot of the people who I suspect of spitting in my vicinity are Muslim."
Anyways, no one hates you cause you're Jewish. Not even the pockmarked junkie in my hallway. Get over yourself. -
Subject: Re: Getting spat at because of who i am
benny_b wrote: My feeling is that some black muslims in this area are spitting at me because I'm jewish, visibly so, and because they're racist POSs. that's the only thing that makes sense to me, the idea of black people spitting at me just because I'm white seems less likely.
Shouldn't it be PsOS? -
As someone from PH who happened to be in Boston this past weekend, I witnessed a young white male spit intentionally and directly onto a outdoor cafe table while a young white couple was sitting and enjoying their lunch on a sunny day in Harvard Square. As a white male who has lived in PH for over a few decades, this has been going on since I was a kid growing up in CH in the 70s. Nothing ever changes about people. Just plain disgusting! As someone just mentioned to me the other day, the only difference between humans and animals is that some humans have developed the skills to use toilet paper! :shock:
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Subject: dude sometime you just gotta spit -
ya know? you're walking somewhere, and have a cold or something, and you just gotta spit! but damn, there's people everywhere and you don't want to come across rude or nasty, or make anyone think you're spitting because of them? What do you do? I'm always looking for the good in everyone though. This one time an older lady looked at me on Classon then hawked up the nastiest luggie ever. I couldn't believe she felt the need to do that after seeing me. but maybe she had a cold? Ever jog with Bronchitis? It's difficult.. -
saskia wrote: [quote=Holla peno]]Next. That is, unless you'd like us to talk about the obvious subtext here, being "I'm a young entitled white guy and I'm gonna flog the fact that I'm Jewish in order to seem somehow oppressed even though everyone and g-d knows that most of the non-Hasidic Jews in this country are middle class."
You sound like you got a little hate going on there yourself. The guy is trying to think of any reason at all why people might be spitting on him. I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder about any aspect of one's appearance or racial/ethnic background. If he were fat or walked with a cane, he might (appropriately) wonder if he were being targeted for these things.
"Plus I'm going to wildly calculate that a lot of the people who I suspect of spitting in my vicinity are Muslim."
Anyways, no one hates you cause you're Jewish. Not even the pockmarked junkie in my hallway. Get over yourself.
This thread has shown:
a. Spitters seem to be of all races.
b. Spitters seem to spit at people of all races.
...but I think it is natural to wonder, esp if the spitter is of a different background than yourself.
When you drive too fast:
Cops give drivers tickets ...yup, perhaps more often to drivers who don't look like them.
When you show up everyday late:
Bosses fire employees ...yup, perhaps more quickly if the employee doesn't look like them.
When you walk by an asshole:
The asshole spits ...perhaps more often you, um, don't look like the asshole.
Which leads to the question:
Who among us hasn't wondered if we got ticketed by the cop or fired by the boss, largely on the basis of looking different than them?
....even if we were actually guilty of :
going 82 MPH?
showing up everyday late for work for the past month?
Which leads to the final question:
Why should we be expected to not to wonder if seemingly the only reason we got spit on by an asshole was the "offense" of mistakenly walking by? -
Some spitting is normal. If everyone's spitting at you, it might be time for a fresh honest look in the mirror 8)
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You alll sound like grade A f*ckfaces. And, thanks Urban Cow for posting your picture up here...cuz when I see you Ima spit a big one in your direction.
Could it be simply that you got a stank attitude? Yerrrsss...I think so. Stop behaving as if you are in the jungle and we are the other....I can see you from a mile away walking with your stupid-ass coffee all plugged into your headphones....you all look the same, talk the same....you hate us..have ZERO interaction with us.....AND YES YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY GET RID OF US DARKIES....
So we spit at you....AND IM GOING TO KEEP SPITTING AT YOU TO......
DIE URBAN PIONEERS -
gato wrote: Could it be simply that you got a stank attitude? Yerrrsss...I think so. Stop behaving as if you are in the jungle and we are the other....I can see you from a mile away walking with your stupid-ass coffee all plugged into your headphones....you all look the same, talk the same....you hate us..have ZERO interaction with us.....AND YES YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY GET RID OF US DARKIES....
You are not one of the spitters. You may be a troll, but not a spitting troll. I know this is an anonymous online forum so you can pretend to be whoever you want to be... but in this case, it's obvious that your life keeps you too busy to engage in vindictive spitting.
So we spit at you....AND IM GOING TO KEEP SPITTING AT YOU TO......
DIE URBAN PIONEERS -
But how will you know it's me if we all look the same?
Now, excuse me while I get back to enjoying my stupid-ass coffee. -
gato wrote: you all look the same, talk the same....
What are you talking about?
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saskia wrote: [quote=gato]Could it be simply that you got a stank attitude? Yerrrsss...I think so. Stop behaving as if you are in the jungle and we are the other....I can see you from a mile away walking with your stupid-ass coffee all plugged into your headphones....you all look the same, talk the same....you hate us..have ZERO interaction with us.....AND YES YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY GET RID OF US DARKIES....
You are not one of the spitters. You may be a troll, but not a spitting troll. I know this is an anonymous online forum so you can pretend to be whoever you want to be... but in this case, it's obvious that your life keeps you too busy to engage in vindictive spitting.
So we spit at you....AND IM GOING TO KEEP SPITTING AT YOU TO......
DIE URBAN PIONEERS
does anyone still say honky?
in retrospect it's almost a charming word -
spitting is something i never saw people do growing up unless they were sick. my students spit all the time, i see their parents spitting outside of the school, etc. i remember my first week teaching flipping out on a girl who spit on the ramp up to the trailer where i taught and her response was "if i can spit in my home, why can't i spit outside?" good point, fourth grader...
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^^^ "my students spit all the time"
are they phlemish. -
All this isn't as bad as watching someone blowing there nose, sans tissue by holding down a nostril and shooting it out the other side. Now, THAT'S gross.
Actually, it's all gross. :pukel: -
All this isn't as bad as watching someone bringing a bag full of empty merlot bottles to the curb on a Sunday morning. Now, THAT's gross.
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UrbanCowgirl wrote: But how will you know it's me if we all look the same?
That's simple urban cow...you're the one with the XXL size ass that chews her cudd.
Now, excuse me while I get back to enjoying my stupid-ass coffee. -
gato wrote: You alll sound like grade A f*ckfaces. And, thanks Urban Cow for posting your picture up here...cuz when I see you Ima spit a big one in your direction.
There aren't any coffee places around... and how does walking around minding one's own business equate to "having a stank attitude"
Could it be simply that you got a stank attitude? Yerrrsss...I think so. Stop behaving as if you are in the jungle and we are the other....I can see you from a mile away walking with your stupid-ass coffee all plugged into your headphones....you all look the same, talk the same....you hate us..have ZERO interaction with us.....AND YES YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY GET RID OF US DARKIES....
So we spit at you....AND IM GOING TO KEEP SPITTING AT YOU TO......
DIE URBAN PIONEERS
I would think spitting at someone would be more in line with what is seen as "having a stank attitude", regardless of the reason
Pretell enlightented one; please uncover the evidence proving there is a mass conspiracy to "push out us darkies", and that the influx of unfamiliar skin colors is not solely a consequence of landlords looking for reliable, higher paying tenants?
Why do I even bother... -
Cool The Kid wrote: Why do I even bother...
That is perhaps the best question yet. -
Spit back. Challenge your neighbor to a duel. See who can spit the farthest, longest, largest glob. Who can hack the loudest. Have a spoken event/rap/ coughing contest, see who can come up with the most spitting synonyms (spit, ptyalize, ptyalise, spew, spue). Get the community involved. Give awards. Perhaps an annual community event, make it a block party activity, a way of getting to know your neighbors and to spark dialogue.
One time someone called the cops came when a stranger on the street threatened to hit me, (I was terrified, he was a huge guy; I'm female,) but they didn't do anything about it. When I mentioned that he'd spit at me though, he was arrested. Since spitting at someone is illegal, make a citizen's arrest. From behind, though. -
Cool The Kid wrote: Pretell enlightented one...
Pretell? -
[quote="travelriter"]Spit back. Challenge your neighbor to a duel. See who can spit the farthest, longest, largest glob. Who can hack the loudest. Have a spoken event/rap/ coughing contest, see who can come up with the most spitting synonyms (spit, ptyalize, ptyalise, spew, spue). Get the community involved. Give awards.
Great idea , the winners can perform their synchronized spitting at Radio City , be offered scholarships to Harvard, Columbia and Cornell Medical schools, or just become state senators. -
please hold the spitting contest on a windy day.
...spit into the wind. -
Moooooooooooooo!
Little hard to take offense at insults strewn about by serial spitters.
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Subject: Responding to Hamilton
"Hamilton" wrote: To quote you
Hamilton I laid out a number of reasons why the spit flies; the one you quote above refers to how I might imagine what the spitter perceives when he sees this white guy. My attempt is to imagine the thought the spitter is thinking. He/she has to have something in their mind preceding the offensive act. It is my argument that their anger/hatred/frustration comes from perceiving benny b as such (entitled) in contradistinction to their life. How they perceive me is notably different, and for the sake of breadth I will not elaborate. The Black experience -- believe it or not -- is a painfully unique one, often not unfortunately open to extrapolation. The spitter's faux pas comes from a self-perceived place of righteousness, believe me.
"how would you feel if you had a fucked up life because the white man done made life hard for you , and here comes the scrawny white boy with his White sense of entitlement? Your going to spit dude"
Thats a cop out, if you believe that, why are they spitting at you , a black person?
Or are they just equal opportunity spitters. -
Now i understand, it's Bennie B. who's the problem, because he represents the entitled.
LOL.
Do these same dirtbags spit at well to do blacks, i doubt it.
You can theorize all you want, but it comes down to one simple thing, anyone that spits at, or, on someone, because they are of a different skin color, is a racist. -
Actually, not so much spit AT blacks, but I have had folks who are walking in front of me, spit directly into my path as I am coming up behind them. Its more of the "I exist in the world alone and therefore don't have to pay attention to anything around me syndrome". About 25% of the time the person looks chagrined if I shoot them the evil eye. 50% of the time, they continue to walk along as if I'm not there, and 25% of the time, they give me the stank eye.
But I learned a long time ago not to assume people were doing shit to me because I am black. Sometimes, its because they are assholes. At least that's what they used to tell me in corporate america. -
Hamilton, Bennie was not spit upon, or at.
His path was where the spit was spat.
Ha! That's funny.
I too am Black, like the spitters who spat at Bennie
I don't think that makes them racist if my path too suffers the same fate as his.
Believe me. -
Benny, I don't think it's a racist thing, I am black and I have been spat on by other black people in the area, it happens on a daily basis.. I believe they just love spitting.. I pay them no attention..
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Not sure about the motivations of where they are directing it, but there are there are definitely spitters among us. One of my girlfriends (black) had a man's spit land in the palm of her hand as he hocked it out at a subway station. And we had someone in our building who was spitting in the elevator cab.
I rank spitting up there with smoking and then blowing the smoke out for all to "enjoy". I don't necessarily think its done intentionally but it's still damn disgusting.
Try to stay upwind of the spit, cause you get a good wind blowing and that stuff catches flight - you don't want your face to be in its path. It's happened to me :-( (and I'm black). -
All these people have been pretty ghetto looking and i try to ignore these racist morons, I know that they're underprivileged and have had horrible lives.
Also, as a word of advice, you might want to check these notions at the door before you head out each morning. Undoubtedly, as fair-minded as you may try to be, you are and have been carrying those negative perceptions with you for a while now. It will influence your body language and shape your everyday interactions with the people that you chose as your neighbors by moving here. Without you saying a word, people see and feel what you think about them.
We move in and we treat a large swatch of people like they are the background noise that needs to be ignored or filtered out while we wait for the real programming to begin. We really have to change that whole dynamic.
Little things - like asking the guy on the corner what time it is when you don't have your watch or letting that girl with the perfectly quaffed mane know that you like her new do - go a long way. Showing that we are willing to engage with each other.
In any event, welcome to the neighborhood, and sorry that it has been bumpy for you thus far - hope things get better.
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