Whats up with bike riders on Vanderbilt ave???

Not everyone has caucasian cold weather blood you know. Actually more people have tropical or hot weather blood. It is unhealthy and insane to be out in that weather more than you have to.

Why is that? Cold is cold and is unhealthy for humans and other living things. Why do you think people from cold weather places spend so much money going to warm places to escape? Why is the typical retirement plan to retire where it never gets cold? Regardless of the cold, they could have made the bike lanes much less intrusive to others.

Boygabriel said:

it's hard to keep up with your ever-shifting logic.

Logic? Where?

Fine.

But until you figure out how to give us bike lanes that appear in front of us only when we choose to use them en mass, we will get DOT to construct ones that are available year round.

Seems like a compromise to me.

Norway that was a joke right?..The comment on good clothing is key to outdoor anything. The reality is the area has a large number of illegally driven cars and trucks. Out of state license plates,registration and insurance will make getting paid if you are hit or seriously injured impossible. Children going to and from school or making bicycling part of a fitness routine are eliminated by people who don't believe in a share the road philosophy. Until the police make the safe operation of automobiles and bicycles a priority it will always be an unresolved issue. Anybody over 16 should have violations from a bicycle put on their driving record. Once acting foolish affects getting a job or a Zipcar people will understand that there is no double standard . There should be less of every kind of vehicle on the road..from bicycles w no brakes to SUVs with FL or NC tags that are paying 500 a year for fraudulent insurance instead of the 500 per month that the NY market commands. The police should walk around and put a fix it ticket on every car with an out-of-state plate..and if that car drops a kid off at an area school or daycare the driver/parent should know that they are req to register and insure the vehicle in NY within 90 days. That will take 100s of cars and trucks off the road in poorer areas like CH where people do not have the est 8400 dollars a year to maintain a vehicle. Taking away a fun and healthy activity from our ever fatter youth is a bad choice we should give more road use to kids and limit the options for the fat drivers.

Precipitation doesn't mean that it sticks. 30 degrees and sunshine is enough to give you dry streets. Also, most of the infrastructure changes for cyclists are going to be what, paint? How many gallons of paint can you buy with the purchase price of one subway car? How much of an improvement is it to have fewer people on the subway?

Sure, take your bike up Vandy, then Bergen to Smith, Smith/Jay all the way to the Manhattan Bridge, up Chrystie, across to Lafayette, up to Un Square - how many special lights, blockades and poles did you count on the way? None. Zero. This is not unusual. On the great majority of the streets with designated lanes, there's very little other than paint.

Where? Broadway? Let's be real - that's a pedestrian zone. I made one attempt to ride from Columbus Circle to Union Square - it was hell. 9th Ave has some islands that separate the the bike lane from traffic, I'll give you that. 2nd Ave doesn't. Lafayette doesn't. Neither does 5th Ave, that I'm aware of, certainly not below 34th, same for 6th Ave. Cross town there's not much, either - 9th? Nope. 10th? Nope. Grand? Nada.

When all else fails, invoke "real new yorker" authority.

Create a mythical time in which new yorkers agreed on something, anything, and then rest on this authority.

Until this works, enjoy the higher gas taxes, tolls, registration fees, insurance, etc that the real NYers are steadily levying on privately owned cars.

nofay said:

8th ave, 9th ave, 6th ave, 1st ave all have them and they are building more every day with money that could be used for our schools or other NECESSARY things. Grand street has parked cars blocking half the road and a once speedy route accross town is now a parking lot. As for riding a bike in NYC without special accomodations made for you well, if you cant take the heat, GET OUT THE KITCHEN!!!

Btw as for 9th and 10th st are you out of your damn mind? How the fuck a bikelane can fit on a street with one lane of traffic. Bike nazis please go back wherever you came from and leave real New Yorkers alone to live in peace.

You do understand that most of the 'problem areas' that you've mentioned, either a) it's where it crosses B'way or b) where the removal of traffic lanes (for bike lanes and/or parking) was part of traffic calming measures first, cycling second, right? Can wrap your mind around the difference between "changes made to address the traffic issues," vs "changes made that caused the traffic issues"?

nofay said:

Smart people use an upstate or out of state address for insurance and theres not a damn thing they can do about it.

Yeah, that's called 'fraud,' genius, and it's part of the issue that compounds the traffic woes for the city. Pat yourself on the back.