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mucho noise/partying on St. John's b/t Wash Underhill

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  • alafairnadia
    alafairnadia
    I'm trying to follow what you've written ...
    djuoh wrote: As much as you are trying to to help, d-miriam, you are making it far worse. She is speaking of her neighbor, howdareu, and the way this should have been handled is for them to speak to each other, with out the bull sh*t that you guys have written.
    and don't understand why this:
    d-miriam wrote: I once tried to ask the guys next door to turn their music down and will never do that again - bad reaction.
    didn't register with you.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    alafairnadia wrote: I'm trying to follow what you've written ...

    It could get ulgy, is what I am saying...

    [quote=d-miriam]I once tried to ask the guys next door to turn their music down and will never do that again - bad reaction.
    didn't register with you.

    I registered just fine, but introducing yourself during a party as the person that could jeapordize the party, usually doesn't receive a good reaction. I am asking if they got to know each other under a different circumstance. They both have the community in their interest and yet they have never spoken to each other.
  • emily
    emily
    djuoh wrote: One question for, d-miriam. How is it that you have been living there for 2 1/2 years and never spoken to howdareu?
    I'm confused about this. Do you know literally every person on your block?
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    djuoh wrote: Sure nobody likes noise all the time, but you I'm sure the majority of you have had a loud party at some point...
    d-miriam gives the impression this is more than a once-in-a-while thing. An occasional party is fine, but I would a) invite and/or inform the neighbors b) keep the noise at a reasonable level c) take it inside or to a bar when when it gets too late/loud.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    EmilyM wrote: [quote=djuoh]One question for, d-miriam. How is it that you have been living there for 2 1/2 years and never spoken to howdareu?
    I'm confused about this. Do you know literally every person on your block?

    I'm confused that you can't figure out that they know of each other...get it together. Who said to know everyone on your block. You would be surprised at who knows who. Don't sleep on the neighborhood, it doesn't on you.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    djuoh wrote: [quote=EmilyM]I'm confused about this. Do you know literally every person on your block?
    I'm confused that you can't figure out that they know of each other...get it together.
    d-miriam wrote: In response to howdareu:

    I'm sorry you had such a negative reaction to my post. But you clearly misunderstand where I'm coming from and who I am. In fact, you don't know me at all...
    d-miriam wrote: howdareu,

    My smile is not fake, and I really resent that accusation. How could you possibly know who I am - and if you think you do, why don't you address me directly?
    My bolds. howdareyou seems to think that he/she knows d-miriam, but d-miriam, at least, doesn't think that that's the case.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    WhyFi wrote: [quote=djuoh][quote=EmilyM]I'm confused about this. Do you know literally every person on your block?
    I'm confused that you can't figure out that they know of each other...get it together.
    d-miriam wrote: In response to howdareu:

    I'm sorry you had such a negative reaction to my post. But you clearly misunderstand where I'm coming from and who I am. In fact, you don't know me at all...
    d-miriam wrote: howdareu,

    My smile is not fake, and I really resent that accusation. How could you possibly know who I am - and if you think you do, why don't you address me directly?
    My bolds. howdareyou seems to think that he/she knows d-miriam, but d-miriam, at least, doesn't think that that's the case.


    Pose the question towards them if you don't believe me.

    They know of each other, but not on the basis of have tea and sandwiches on a rainy day while listening to Manilow. They are neighbors and live in the same building. I doubt d-miriam walked down the block to ask for the music to be turned down.
  • emily
    emily
    djuoh wrote: [quote=EmilyM][quote=djuoh]One question for, d-miriam. How is it that you have been living there for 2 1/2 years and never spoken to howdareu?
    I'm confused about this. Do you know literally every person on your block?

    I'm confused that you can't figure out that they know of each other...get it together.

    What I'm objecting to is your assumption that if you have a problem with another person on your block, you are not allowed to address it in any way unless you have already formed an acquaintance with that person. I don't think that's realistic.
  • emily
    emily
    WhyFi wrote:
    My bolds. howdareyou seems to think that he/she knows d-miriam, but d-miriam, at least, doesn't think that that's the case.
    I think howdareu thinks he knows d-miriam's "type," and feels personally attacked by her post, even though d-miriam seems pretty sure that howdareu is just someone who happens to live on her block. This is why I don't see why it's d-miriam's responsibility to discuss the issue with howdareu in person.
  • emily
    emily
    djuoh wrote: They are neighbors and live in the same building.
    I think you are reading the posts wrong. I am pretty sure they do not. I think howedareu posted her address (NOT his) because he assumed she lived in a recent coop conversion.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    EmilyM,

    Please give us all a brilliant resolution to this situation, since you are the bearer of reason.
  • emily
    emily
    I don't have a resolution to the noise situation, I'm just trying to prevent you from spreading misinformation based on careless reading of the posts that are there for everyone to see. That seems to be a pattern with you. You are trying to blame d-miriam for something that is somewhere between not true and irrelevant, and I feel bad for her.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    Foget it. It will never make sense to you, and you are getting off track and getting on my case. Isn't that a split topic? For the record, I didn't blame anyone, so back off!
  • mdgately
    mdgately
    This has four articles on how to deal with noise:
    http://www.tenant.net/Rights/Noise/index.htmll
    This seems to be a dead link.

    I'm interested in hearing constructive suggestions for dealing with people who are making a lot of noise, and who may not even realize that they're bothering others. If there's a guy in an SUV who's continually blaring music late at night while double parked, who's he visiting? Can someone who knows who he's visiting say something that would peacefully point out how annoying it is? My parents used to get mad at me whenever my friends announced their arrival by honking their car horns, so it fell to me to ask my friends not to do that, and soon the problem was solved, without two people who didn't know each other - my parents and my friends - having a confrontation.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    mdgately wrote: Can someone who knows who he's visiting say something that would peacefully point out how annoying it is? My parents used to get mad at me whenever my friends announced their arrival by honking their car horns, so it fell to me to ask my friends not to do that, and soon the problem was solved, without two people who didn't know each other - my parents and my friends - having a confrontation.
    This seems like a reasonable solution, but sometimes it's a little tough to figure out who you need to talk to... One of the buildings next to mine regularly has people hangin' out front, and I couldn't tell you which, if any, of them actually lives in the building.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    mdgately wrote:
    This has four articles on how to deal with noise:
    http://www.tenant.net/Rights/Noise/index.htmll
    This seems to be a dead link.
    Sorry about that -- I somehow added an extra L at the end of the URL. It should be:
    http://www.tenant.net/Rights/Noise/index.html

    That one works!
  • howdareu
    howdareu

    Subject: read what is for u

    if it pertains to u read just that if u do know me please i am human speak to me if u do not know me lets keep posting
  • howdareu
    howdareu

    Subject: cont.

    there are people on this blog causing fires and laughing i feel pity for u.
    if u don't know what u r talking about like suv noise quiet yourself
  • alafairnadia
    alafairnadia
    RBG wrote: Howdareu isn't a bad person, but he certainly thinks that the added noise and people blasting music in their SUVs all night is part of the neighborhood culture, the cultural landscape, so-to-speak---I strongly disagree. What he doesn't realize is that blasting music out of fancy cars at 11pm on a weeknight and having latenight parties on the sidewalk helps to foster negative stereotypes that continuously plague african-americans. Blasting music all night does nothing to foster the allegiances or sense of community that HowdareU is talking about. Honestly, I feel sorry for everyone who lives in those apartment buildings and have apartments facing the front. Everytime I come home and see that damn black SUV, usually doubleparked, blasting music, I think, "I'm so glad I bought an apartment in the back of the building." Howdareu fancies himself the mayor of the block and to be fair, he's done a great deal for the children and residents of St. Johns place---he's a true organizer in every sense of the word...Now, I just wish he'd organize the noise-monglers and get them to turn that shit down.
    you know, as many times as I've disagreed with your viewpoint, I completely agree with you here. on everything. :)
  • howdareu
    howdareu
    if u don't know who i am and what i do for my community on a continuous basis its ok with me. you will know one day and if u never know it still won't bother me i don't do good deeds for popularity, i do them because it's right. a noise issue can be solved but it never will be on this blog because u have ignorance, fear, and pure evil on here, there are some intelligent people on here i am sure, and they know who they are i know by their comments the others there is help for u yet.people know people on what they do u can't come here and tell ur story, and don't make up lies 4 others to be on ur side that's not nice. don't talk for others talk 4 yourself isn't that what the blog is for where is the individuality on this blog i love what god gave me true logic and sense to know when people need help look for the suv elsewhere and history girl come get some of yours too because i have it
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    howdareu wrote: people know people on what they do...
    Exactly, and you came in here in a very hostile and very judgemental way. I'm sure that you mean to do great things for your community, but is that the way that a leader acts? Even your name is hostile- HOW DARE YOU?!?! Come on now. You say that this board is filled with evil and ignorance, but when you make an entrance like that, what, were you expecting milk and cookies?
  • doctorj
    doctorj
    WhyFi wrote:
    Keyboards are cheap and everywhere. :wink: Since we're already off the subject, this is going to be my next keyboard!!! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
    Nice, but personally I'm wondering whether something from this Swedish line would fit better with the more organic and genteel rather than modernist décor in my rear-facing away-from-the-noise pad.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    PURE EVIL!!!! Aiiie!

    Seriously.
  • d-miriam
    d-miriam

    Subject: good news

    Hey everyone,

    I just want to report something positive that came out of my initial post. Apparently word got around the neighborhood about this volley of emails (I guess from howdareu). Someone in my building approached me (they pieced together that I was the original poster) and said we should communicate directly with each other in the future. They apologized for the music and said they don't want me to feel that there is tension between us.

    This person added that we are like family b/c we live in the same building - and that we should be able to tell each other if we are unhappy with something (ie the music levels). I can't tell you how great this was. I responded that if I ever do anything to upset them or that noise coming from our apartment is too loud, that they should approach me. Life is a two way street.

    I really commend my neighbor for reaching out. I felt like I couldn't talk to people about the noise/music b/c of a previous attempt to do so - b/c of one bad experience. But I was wrong. Perhaps this gives all of you some hope that these types of conflicts can be dealt with humanely.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    That is REALLY cool, d-miriam! I'm glad your neighbor was so understanding about everything.
  • emily
    emily
    I'm really glad to hear that it turned out okay in the end, d-miriam.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Yay!
    =D> :D/
  • djuoh
    djuoh

    Subject: Re: good news

    This is what I have been trying to get across to you people. Yapping away on this blog and not confronting the situation "humanley" will get you nowhere.

    And for all of those that thought that they didn't know each other and thought I was making up shit and reading this blog wrong, thing again. I don't make shit up.

    This was going to get resolved and congratulations to both parties...
  • d-miriam
    d-miriam
    Djuoh,

    Yes, there is somewhat of a good ending here. But just to make things clear: I do not know the person who calls themself "howdareu" and they do not know me (or they probably know who I am after last night - but they still know nothing about my real self. I could guess who they are, but is that really fair?). We don't live in the same building. We could live on opposite ends of the block, for all I know. This is an anonymous site where people come to get advice - people don't identify themselves, although I inadvertantly did by providing too much information about myself. There are 100's of people who live on this block. I do happen to know the person in my building who approached me. If I hadn't of posted, I might never have heard from this person. That's the irony of the situation.

    So I don't think it's wrong for people to come to a site like this and solicit ideas about how to deal with an uncomfortable situation in their community. Of course, if anyone feels that they can speak to their neighbors about an existing problem, all the better. We all know that's the best solution. But there are people who don't feel like they can - or who have tried to (like myself) and felt that they weren't heard. And yes it's great that this one person reached out to me, and now have an open dialogue. It's a great start. It doesn't guarantee that the problem will go away on other parts of the block. But I have faith that even one connection will foster ways that people on this block - residents who've been here 30 years and newcomers - can start to work together, to find ways to trust one other.
  • djuoh
    djuoh
    Miriam-B,

    I am not saying that you personally know Howdareu. This is a tight community that you are living in. By saying, "that they know each other", I mean you have crossed paths and when you are walking down St. John's, people recognize you as a resident. It is strange and nice like that. You are not going to find this quality of neighbors regardless of the noise.

    I have noticed that the majority reaction is to call the authorities on you neighbor. That isn't the norm for this neighborhood and can cause animosity. As you have seen yourself the authorities don't care and won't show up. People work it out together and it isn't through a blog.

    You seem to care for the neighborhood and that will be recognized by the residents that live there. By speaking to your neighbors instead of ranting on this blog, you will get the situation resolved much faster.
    They did find you after all and that wasn't by chance.
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