Where to get pasture raised homone/anitbiotic free beef

findcate wrote: d'artagnan had a recall a few years ago on their bacteria infested fois gras. i wouldn't trust them.

why don't you just save yourself some worries & go vegeterian? probably sounds extreme, but at least you don't have to worry as much about all the nastiness of meat. once you quit you see how gross it really is, like smoking. leonardo da vinci was a vegeterian, he called meat eaters human graveyards.

I'm a vegetarian and am agahst at all the toxins and hormones pumped into and sprinkled on non-animal products, including fresh produce. You can't eat anything safely these days unless you have your own farm. Since I can't grow lettuce in my bedroom, I'm screwed.

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Precious Williams wrote: [quote=raw]Is this what the world is coming to? Finding chemical-free beef is now a challenge? I am so glad I don't eat cows! .

Sadly poultry and fish are in a pretty poor contaminated and hormone/antiobiotic-laden state also...


I don't know how true this is but apparently all lamb is grass fed. I asked the butcher at Whole Foods for grass-fed lamb and he told me that all of it is. So lamb might be a healthier choice... I don't think red meat is unhealthy in itself - its just the crap that goes into most of it that is the problem in my opinion. I was a vegetarian for twelve years and my health and energy levels are dramatically improved since re-introducing (grass fed) beef and bison into my diet.

You can score an entire, dirt-cheap lamb in Astoria.

Vegetarians are ruining the planet:

http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2006/07/18/4/

PS Stop hating on vegetarians! We didn't do anything to you! (yet)

I was also reading that you absorb as much water in the shower as you drink each day, so can't avoid tap water if you're drinking bottled water becuse worried about that, either...guess it's hard to avoid all the junk we create, we're pretty porous.

findcate wrote: I was also reading that you absorb as much water in the shower as you drink each day, so can't avoid tap water if you're drinking bottled water becuse worried about that, either...guess it's hard to avoid all the junk we create, we're pretty porous.

true. I keep meaning to buy one of those shower filter things..

WhyFi wrote: I taken showers in some back-woods places that had horrible water quality, for places like that, I would understand - the feeling you get when minerals are drying on your skin... ish - but I thought that NYC was supposed to have some of the best tap water in the nation?

True, although it's not as good as it used to be because a lot of communities upstate have encroached upon the aquifers that feed into our municipal water system.

I just got back from the Green Market, and saw that there is a vendor there that sells grass-fed, antibiotic-free hormone-free beef. The vendor is Wilklow Orchards from Pancake Hollow Road in Highland NY. Their stand is behind the flower vendor, away from the main area, up the road toward the jogging/biking circle. There are 2 other vendors in this area- a goat cheese vendor and a vendor that sells wines from the Finger Lakes region.
Prices were kind of high- as high as $22/pound for filet, $18/pound for rib eye steak, and $8/pound for chuck roast. I think flank steak and skirt steak were in the $12-13/pound range, but I don't remember exactly. I got a few pounds of short ribs for $7/pound, and will report back after i try them. All the meat is cryo-packed, so it should keep pretty well.

They also had flyers about apple-picking at their orchards.

Yeah pasture fed meat can be a little tricky to cook. A couple of times I've ended up with a pasture fed ribeye that had the texture of hard rubber.

As for the higher prices, I think its probably worth it. Some people who balk at the higher cost would readily have money for beers or designer soy lattes.