Starbucks on Franklin Ave?

That is getting to my long-winded point:

Opening up in Western CH has become so expensive (and therefore risky) that newbies aren't attempting it.

I'm arguing that such decisions are wise, because I see the competition only growing.

Oh man, this is gonna open up some good debate.

I see the people who visit Starbucks and the people who visit establishments like Little Zelda's/Breuklen Coffee to be of different breeds. So I feel like those that support those places aren't headed to the Starbucks band wagon and their business will continue. Am I wrong? Do these shops have something to fear?

Also, HOW MUCH COFFEE DOES ONE AVENUE NEED.

I predict that not all of the existing coffee places are going to survive in their present form; they are going to have to adapt to survive in some other form.

I'm sick at just the thought of Starbucks on Franklin! and completely agree with Fonzie on this matter. oh I mean NewGuy88.

As a non-coffee drinker, I won't get much use out of the new Starbucks either.

However, I suspect that a lot of the existing coffee shops were built under the premise that they would loose money for a while and then profit as "non-resident foot traffic" continued to increase in the neighborhood.

My sense is that people visiting a neighborhood will stick to the familiar (I.E. Starbucks), but that residents will patronize their favorite local places.

Starbucks will likely do fine on "just" the former group.

The question is, "Will the small places do fine with just the business from the residents?"

Vote with your dollar billz ya'll. The Gilded Crack Baby mural pawn shop went out of biz because of lack of funding, period. Boycott Starbucks if you believe it is a subpar overpriced product or you are anti-stripmallification of Franklin and it will go bye-bye too.

I am amazed that people think they have an influence over a business if "they" do not patronize it, and that a business is supposed to serve their preferences.

As long as a business serves the preferences of ENOUGH people who have the means to pay for it, it will do fine.

A business doesn't have to serve everyone. It can serve very small subsets and do fine.

By serving a defined a market segment, it is only directly competing with those also serving said segment. I'll worry about this Starbucks going out of business when a SECOND coffee chain opens.

The pawn shop mural was a genius piece of advertising. It communicated to me that I could sell my worldly possessions and make my baby rich and happy.

Sadly, I didn't have kids, and couldn't get over the brainwashing I received when I was a kid: Having a college education and a work ethic is the best bet.

I'm with Eastbloc, I suspect those that patronize Starbucks will be predominantly people who have been brainwashed, like me.

There will, however, be one big difference between them and myself: They will go to Starbucks because they like coffee, whereas I won't go because I do not drink coffee.

This is just another business that has decided to place its interests above mine.

Such is life. I wish them the best.

Quote of the day:

goldemi wrote: The super-cool-hipsters will still be able to sit on the sidewalk at Little Zelda with a macbook in lap while reading Proust to show others their superiority.

Thank god we've got a starbucks. I was wondering if there'd ever be a place on Franklin where I could get a cup of coffee.

The caffienated borg has saturated Manhattan, we are next:

http://gothamist.com/2013/10/17/interactive_map_here_are_all_the_st.php

" At Starbucks, you can reliably get a brownie or cookie. "

Yep, and soon you will be able to randomly pick any train, get off in any town/hood, visit their main street, and get the same exact cookie or brownie, that will taste exactly the same, while you listen to the same exact music piped in. If diversity is the spice of life then Franklin will be joining the bland ranks with this addition.

I just noticed this today, but there is a Starbucks awning at Atlantic Center mall. I think that's new and it's across the street from the already existing Starbucks at Barclays Center. They're taking over

There's another in Park Slope: inside the Barnes & Noble on 7th Avenue.

I'd be shocked if Starbucks takes that much of the out-of-neighborhood foot traffic-- if you're travelling to Franklin, you're coming to visit twee businesses and resto-bars, not national chains. Likewise, the tastes of people working in a "creative incubator", or whatever 1000 Dean is, are likely to tend toward indie coffee.