Shooting at St. John's and Nostrand
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haha subtle indeed.
I was walking on Washington b/w Sterling + St John's and I swear to you right out the on the stoop this kid came up to a granny and there was some sort of handoff! And the air sure smelled herbal.... -
Nice. Even grannies need to get high sometimes.
Did anyone see the NYPD truck out on the corner of St.Johns and Nostrand last night setting up? Apparently they were getting set to light up the whole block. -
I wonder if we are back in the impact zone.
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brooklynleather wrote: haha subtle indeed.
Glaucoma?
I was walking on Washington b/w Sterling + St John's and I swear to you right out the on the stoop this kid came up to a granny and there was some sort of handoff! And the air sure smelled herbal.... -
pot peddlin' grannies!
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Don't get your hopes up for being an impact zone again. Ray Kelly recently stated that because of the recruitment disaster the NYPD will be forced to end Operation Impact citywide.
There have been many nights lately that the 77 only turns out 4 cars. I know I've done the math on here before but...One car goes in for meal, another car is at an accident, 2 cars go to an assault. Now, who's left when you call? NOBODY! -
Wow, what was the recruitment disaster?
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bojolais wrote: Wow, what was the recruitment disaster?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/nyregion/03pba.html -
I do not mean this as a slight against the MTA but don't they make a lot more than police officers? I think it should be the other way around.
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bojolais wrote: Wow, what was the recruitment disaster?
I guess you don't watch the news. -
Ha. I actually work in news but I travel about 90% of the time for my news job. Thus, sometimes I am remiss in following LOCAL news. But that's one of the reasons I logon here, so no need to be nasty.
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bojolais wrote: Ha. I actually work in news but I travel about 90% of the time for my news job. Thus, sometimes I am remiss in following LOCAL news. But that's one of the reasons I logon here, so no need to be nasty.
Who's being nasty? You're way to sensitive. -
Well paraderest I don't think saying "I guess you don't watch the news" was meant in kindness. Are you defending it as a nice thing to say?
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It was a merely a statement, not nice, not mean.
Everybody who lives or works in NYC should be concerned over the recruitment/retention problems of the NYPD. Here are some numbers for you based on the projected retirements (20 year service retirements) and projected hirings (as revealed by Ray Kelly)...
Current NYPD MOS - approx. 35,000
Summer of 2007 -
approx. 2000 retirements
approx. 300 resignations
approx. 700 hired
-1600 MOS
MOS Force 33,400 by Jan '08
Year of 2008 total -
approx. 4000 retirements
approx. 500 resignations
approx. 1400 hired
-3100 MOS
MOS Force 30,300 by Jan '09
Year of 2009 total -
approx. 4000 retirements
approx. 700 resignations
approx. 1600 hired
- 3100 MOS
MOS Force 27,200 by Jan '10* -
Yeah, but if the current members keep retiring at the pace that they are, theoretically, there will be a larger pie (total salaries and benefits) to be split amongst a smaller number of people. So, the union should be able to self-correct the salary disparity by going back to the bargaining table with a package that redistributes salaries such that recruits and rookies are brought upwards while still allowing for adjustment of the older guys. Or am I missing something?
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homeowner wrote: Yeah, but if the current members keep retiring at the pace that they are, theoretically, there will be a larger pie (total salaries and benefits) to be split amongst a smaller number of people. So, the union should be able to self-correct the salary disparity by going back to the bargaining table with a package that redistributes salaries such that recruits and rookies are brought upwards while still allowing for adjustment of the older guys. Or am I missing something?
HA!!! That's one of the funniest things I ever heard.
This city can not be properly served by a dept. that small in this age. You will rapidly see a return of the 80's. There are precincts that are putting 3 cars on the road for each tour. Those three cars can't be everywhere all the time. Crime's already on the rise. Just wait and see. -
This city can not be properly served by a dept. that small in this age. You will rapidly see a return of the 80's. There are precincts that are putting 3 cars on the road for each tour. Those three cars can't be everywhere all the time. Crime's already on the rise. Just wait and see.
What 'age' are you referring to? This city's demographics are shifting, especially in Manhattan and northern Brooklyn: more educated, more affluent. Which means less crime. And less need for police. This will never be the 80's again because will never look like the 80's again. Regardless of what the NYPD does, or doesn't do. -
Year to date there is an 18.1% increase in the numbers of murders in Patrol Borough Brooklyn North.
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greg wrote:
That is we'll see less crime in those neighborhoods that have been overrun by affluent gentrifiers. But we still have large numbers of desperate poor people in this city and in those neighborhoods where that contain large numbers of them, we will see a return of the 80's crime wave--the wild wild north east.
What 'age' are you referring to? This city's demographics are shifting, especially in Manhattan and northern Brooklyn: more educated, more affluent. Which means less crime. And less need for police. This will never be the 80's again because will never look like the 80's again. Regardless of what the NYPD does, or doesn't do. -
ParadeRest wrote: Year to date there is an 18.1% increase in the numbers of murders in Patrol Borough Brooklyn North.
And where is the analysis of those deaths? Are the victtims drug dealers being squeezed out of their turf, because the number of customers are shrinking? -
X-brooklynite wrote: [quote=greg]
That is we'll see less crime in those neighborhoods that have been overrun by affluent gentrifiers. But we still have large numbers of desperate poor people in this city and in those neighborhoods where that contain large numbers of them, we will see a return of the 80's crime wave--the wild wild north east.
What 'age' are you referring to? This city's demographics are shifting, especially in Manhattan and northern Brooklyn: more educated, more affluent. Which means less crime. And less need for police. This will never be the 80's again because will never look like the 80's again. Regardless of what the NYPD does, or doesn't do.
"those neighborhoods" where the desperate poor are moving, according to the census data presented in the NY Times six months ago, are the inner suburbs of Nassau, Orange, Bergen and other non-NYC areas. NYC is getting to be too expensive. Look at Europe: do the desparate poor livin in London or Paris? They live in govt. projects ringing the city. I would contend that is our future. -
Speaking of St. Johns and Nostrand, the big police lights went up on opposite corners, I think overnight on Saturday. They were definitely there early Sunday AM, and I don't recall seeing them on Saturday day. These are the four damn bright lights on tall poles attached to the little trailer, times two.
There has been a definite police presence in the neighborhood as of late. Pretty much all through the weekend there were either cops sitting at the intersection in cars, or a pair standing over by the bodega.
Also, their were two officers in bullet proof vests and street clothes with their badges hung around their necks flashing a photo in my building too. Great. No one I know, or have seen, at least. -
The newest compstat numbers have been released and I need to make a correction. Murder in PBBN (Brooklyn North) is actually up 34% from last year. I guess it was a busy week in Brooklyn.
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The lights were shining Saturday evening and a cop was posted on the corner (thought I don't know how alert she was while talking on her cell phone).
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According to this:
Murders are down 25% from 2006 for the 77th precinct, which includes Crown Heights. This is through the week of 6/10/07. Link to stats are below.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs077pct.pdf -
I guess if the murder occurs on the north side of Atlantic and Nostrand, that doesn't affect the people on the south side of the street. Criminals always respect the precinct and CB boundaries, they are very considerate like that.
P.S.-four of the homocides from early last year were from one incident on Pacific Street in which the people were killled as a result of an arson fire. It kinda distorts the numbers. -
BTW-Burglaries are up 20.3% ytd, grand larcenies are up 6.5%ytd, and felony assaults are up .8%ytd in the 77.
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So PR, isn't the whole point of Compstat supposed to be that resources are diverted toward problem areas? Is the deployment daver mentioned the response, or is there more coming?
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An update, the lights are still up at Nostrand and St Johns, and they are BRIGHT. One set was still turned on this morning when I headed to work. I have seen a lower police presence this week so far as compared to the weekend, but then there is much less going on in the street on a Monday compared to a Friday Saturday or Sunday.
And P.S., a public safety announcement. Watch yourself walking about with slick streets. I saw someone nearly get creamed at Nostrand and Eastern TWICE yesterday. One BMW locked it up and slid part way through the intersection on a red light, then threw it in reverse and pulled back to the line. And then a pickup locked it up and slid sideways bouncing into and nearly over the curb a few times before coming to rest. Perhaps there was some extra goofy grease in the road there or something. Point being, don't count on cars stopping where they are supposed to. I suppose you should _never_ really count on that though, if you want to stay, um, unFLATtened. ;-) -
ParadeRest, Why does it seem you are trying to incite fear?
It's as if you want things to be bad. I know you must be a cop in the area and you live somewhere else, but does that mean you want to install terror in everyone?
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