Shooting at St. John's and Nostrand

Anonymous wrote: ParadeRest, Why does it seem you are trying to incite fear?
It's as if you want things to be bad. I know you must be a cop in the area and you live somewhere else, but does that mean you want to install terror in everyone?

I don't want things to be bad, they are bad. It is routine in this neighborhood to meet people who have no idea about the crime rate. When I watch all of the UHaul trucks left wide open with no owner in site and a car from Ohio is parked behind it, I can't help but wonder how long it will be before that poor soul is robbed or burglarized. Most of the legit burgs that occur in CH (not the baby daddy who came in and took his playstation when nobody was looking) are a result of the victims naivity. They leave doors unlocked, doors are broken and they "look closed", windows are left open. People don't put secondary deadbolts on their doors.

Most of the criminals here are career criminals. These criminals often have a habit to feed. There job is to steal your shit. They watch who's coming and going. They know who just moved in. They know that you have a laptop and a DVD player.

I don't know about any arrests in regards to the Atlantic Ave incident. I do know that the victim was uncooperative at the scene but for any other info you'd have to call the 79.

As for an incident on Eastern Pkwy, can you be more specific about when and where?

Hi PR,

can you tell me if there was ever an arrest made in the shooting dead of a 17 year old at Fulton Street and New York Ave near Burger King and the Chase Bank about a month ago, on a weekday (I believe Wed) around 9 PM? I know it is the 79, but I was walking by that day on my way home but I can't just call the precinct, they're not gonna tell me anything.

You're right, theres's a lot more crime here than I thought would be when I moved here two years ago. But it's really not that bad when you live here, and as a civilian my focus is not on the crime but just living here day to day, and you do get used to it. I actually really like it here now, and stuff does not seem to affect me much anymore.

I don't want things to be bad, they are bad. It is routine in this neighborhood to meet people who have no idea about the crime rate. When I watch all of the UHaul trucks left wide open with no owner in site and a car from Ohio is parked behind it, I can't help but wonder how long it will be before that poor soul is robbed or burglarized. Most of the legit burgs that occur in CH (not the baby daddy who came in and took his playstation when nobody was looking) are a result of the victims naivity. They leave doors unlocked, doors are broken and they "look closed", windows are left open. People don't put secondary deadbolts on their doors.

The trouble with cops is that all they ever see is the bad stuff. All the good stuff that happens in Crown Heights, not to mention all of the routine and typical stuff doesn't exist in their world. This is compounded when they don't live in the area, as most don't. They get beamed in from somewhere else, see nothing but the crime and mayhem and logically conclude that the 77 is a horrible place. Who could blame them?

I, on the hand, have never personally witnessed a murder, a robbery or a break-in in the 77. My only personal experience with these crimes were in other n'hoods. So, PR, you may call these guys from Ohio niave, but maybe they have not been feed the steady diet of chaos and mayhem that you experience at the NYPD. And maybe the more these guys come and behave as if this were a "normal" n'hood, the more it will be become one. I firmly believe the criminals feel they are an accepted part of the community if we all live in fear and behave if we expect to be mugged or robbed. If on the other hand we are shocked and appalled at criminal acts, and lead our lives in a confident and reasonable way as if this were a safe n'hood, criminals get the message their behavior is neither normal or acceptable.

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I, on the hand, have never personally witnessed a murder, a robbery or a break-in in the 77. My only personal experience with these crimes were in other n'hoods. So, PR, you may call these guys from Ohio niave, but maybe they have not been feed the steady diet of chaos and mayhem that you experience at the NYPD. And maybe the more these guys come and behave as if this were a "normal" n'hood, the more it will be become one. I firmly believe the criminals feel they are an accepted part of the community if we all live in fear and behave if we expect to be mugged or robbed. If on the other hand we are shocked and appalled at criminal acts, and lead our lives in a confident and reasonable way as if this were a safe n'hood, criminals get the message their behavior is neither normal or acceptable.

BTW- I live a whole 12 minutes away from Crown Heights. I'm not "beamed in" from somewhere else.

Year to date there have already been 124 burglaries and 131 robberies (with cooperative victims, not victims who say "never mind, it's only a television"). Chances are good that you know somebody who has been a victim. There is no burg "pattern" meaning that they are occuring in all parts of the precinct at all times of the day. Many of the burg victims are new residents in the neighborhood. The same goes for the robberies.

PR, Greg has a point. By working for the NYPD your focus is only on the crime that happens in the 77. By default, all your contact with residents will be based around crime. For example, were I to get mugged you would see me, at a very low point in my life. This is how you see victims day after day after day. But in 99% of my life I live a happy life in CH, I interact freely with old residents and can live here free of fear. In your eyes all of this has to look different because you see it differently every day. I wished you could see things through my eyes, walk with me through the neighborhood just for one day, see what I see and tell me what is so bad about it. I bet you would reconsider the status of things being that bad.

Yeah, I came home from dinner at Tavern on Tuesday to find the lights up like I was on the set of a movie. Surprisingly, they had them positioned so that they lit up the street and sidewalk only and not the interior of the house. One pair shinning up Park towards New York the other facing towards Rodgers.

Results were a blissfully quiet evening. Even the cats decided to take their hot cat sex elswhere for the night. No lights last night, but it appeared to be quiet again. Hope it lasts until after the 4th. Last year was a fireworks nightmare.

ParadeRest wrote: Year to date there is an 18.1% increase in the numbers of murders in Patrol Borough Brooklyn North.

Please note, these statistics include East New York and all of Bed-Stuy. These are not the same neighborhoods as Crown Heights. In the same way that Park Slope, less than half a mile away is not the same neighborhood as Crown Heights.

ParadeRest wrote: Year to date there is an 18.1% increase in the numbers of murders in Patrol Borough Brooklyn North.

Please not this percent includes East New York and Bed-Stuy, which is not the same as Crown Heights..

Hi, here we are for your _friendly_ weekend report. Didn't see overly much nonsense around Nostrand and St Johns this weekend. I decent amount of fireworks Sunday night, as reported elsewhere. There was _heavy_ police presence Friday night for sure, a couple walking around. A group in a police van, um, we used to call it "rousting" back where I am from. They seemed to be going in 2-3 heavy into a building, and coming back out with a young man that would get put in the back of the van with the other young men. This went on for awhile, they were getting loaded, so to speak! Also, a decent amount of police cars around. Or the same one circling. I was taking care of four little boys, please forgive my attention to detail.

The crow's nest wasn't up when we went past, but there were four terrorism guys standing there setting stuff up. I think their stuff said TARU. They were friendly. They told me that if they were actually doing something terror related, they wouldn't be wearing blue jeans, and that we were fine in the neighborhood. Lol. They said they were basically doing technical support as far as hooking up cameras and electronics and whatnot.

That's it from me, back you in the streets... Or me in the streets. Or you in the studio. Or however that goes.

Fight and shooting on Park between Rogers and Nostrand early Saturday morning. Ambulance came but not sure what the injuries were.

Yeah, well that's what happens when there's no one actually in the Skywatch. Without it being manned its just a big tin box on steroids. Question is were the cameras running or was the whole thing just shut off?

ParadeRest wrote: The skywatch is always staffed. At the time of the incident, the tower was in use and there is a digital recorder attached to the cameras.

I'm not sure that I agree with that. I have walked past that thing many times in the last week and it has been down with no one around it. I suppose someone could be hiding inside, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. In what capacity is it always staffed?

There is an officer assigned to the skywatch 24 hours a day with face to face relief. The problem is that unless there are 2 cops stafffing it, the box must remain on the ground for safety purposes.

You don't see anybody because he is sitting behind heavily tinted windows monitoring the 5 cameras mounted on the roof. The cameras are always running.

TARU is not in the terrorism business. They are like the A/V squad in high school.

sje wrote: "Stop Snitching"? How fuckin deeply stupid.

This has to be the most retarded backward trend i've EVER heard of. Sad thing is i am not surprised our younger citizens have fallen prey to such a thing. As the saying goes "stand for nothing, you'll for anything", don't get me wrong i've fallen prey to some things (starter jackets, Prom, wearing 3 polo shirts at 1 time/w the collar up) but nothing to this degree. It's just sad...