Subway etiquette and my anger
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i had to deal with a pole sloth last night! i said "excuse me" and the PS looked at me like i was asking for his first born.
i'd like to add another to the list of grievances: people who do not know how to fold the NY times properly as to avoid nearly poking somebody's eye out. i know the paper is big, it's not as compact as the post or newsday and i commend your more-sophisticated choice for the morning news. i do not, however, have to have a paper spread out in front of me blocking my field of vision or threatening me with a nasty facial paper cut because i am sitting next to you. learn folding. thanks in advance.
i suggest that the "wide sitter" and the "no-borders-having-times-reader" are cousins. -
la duchessa wrote: i'd like to add another to the list of grievances: people who do not know how to fold the NY times properly as to avoid nearly poking somebody's eye out. i suggest that the "wide sitter" and the "no-borders-having-times-reader" are cousins.
Good one, also related "I have no control over my Arms and eEbows people".
Arms and elbows are at 90 degrees from their bodies everytime they look for something in their purses and or pockets. And they have a lot of stuff in their purses and pockets because they are rummaging around for 20 minutes at a time.
Arms and elbows against your sides people! Imagine you're a T-rex with stubbly arms - thats how you should look for stuff on crowded trains.
Sadly, don't kill me for this, a lot of you ladies are real bad at this. Maybe its the 4-5 bags you all now carry with you at all times?
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BoogieKnight wrote: [quote=la duchessa]i'd like to add another to the list of grievances: people who do not know how to fold the NY times properly as to avoid nearly poking somebody's eye out. i suggest that the "wide sitter" and the "no-borders-having-times-reader" are cousins.
Good one, also related "I have no control over my Arms and eEbows people".
Arms and elbows are at 90 degrees from their bodies everytime they look for something in their purses and or pockets. And they have a lot of stuff in their purses and pockets because they are rummaging around for 20 minutes at a time.
Arms and elbows against your sides people! Imagine you're a T-rex with stubbly arms - thats how you should look for stuff on crowded trains.
Sadly, don't kill me for this, a lot of you ladies are real bad at this. Maybe its the 4-5 bags you all now carry with you at all times?
T-Rex's are awesome. -
jackson wrote:
truer words have never been spoken, errr typed. i think if there were a small t-rex on every train people would stop actin' a fool. would you wanna risk givin' t-rex a ny times paper cut or slothin up his pole? i think not.
T-Rex's are awesome. -
BoogieKnight wrote: Sadly, don't kill me for this, a lot of you ladies are real bad at this. Maybe its the 4-5 bags you all now carry with you at all times?
Tangent for the record: we could eliminate the need for a lot of our bags if people designed women's clothing that had functional pockets.
I'm just saying. :roll: -
rtraindweller wrote: [quote=jackson]
truer words have never been spoken, errr typed. i think if there were a small t-rex on every train people would stop actin' a fool. would you wanna risk givin' t-rex a ny times paper cut or slothin up his pole? i think not.
T-Rex's are awesome.
a t-rex on every train! a brilliant plan! I think the mta can fit that into the budget. -
BoogieKnight wrote: Sadly, don't kill me for this, a lot of you ladies are real bad at this. Maybe its the 4-5 bags you all now carry with you at all times?
Whoa - nothing comes between a woman and her purses But at least "most" women will slide their bags in front of them of hold them close where you men and your overstuffed backpacks (that you feel MUST be on your back on a crowded train) have almost given me concussions 
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jackson wrote:
as long as the month pass stays at $76!
a t-rex on every train! a brilliant plan! I think the mta can fit that into the budget.
also had me a fun P-S encounter this morning on the Q. she was hugging the pole as if someone was gonna try to take it off the train from her, and was actually wearing a big gray fur coat. The slothness was only enhanced. When I tried to nude myself into a spot to hold the pole (only non crowded one on the car) she gave me this look of utter disgust like "HOW DARE YOU, MY POLE!!!" and huffed away and moved to another car. -
rtraindweller wrote: [quote=jackson]
as long as the month pass stays at $76!
a t-rex on every train! a brilliant plan! I think the mta can fit that into the budget.
Monthly pass going up to $81. -
My secret for pole-sloths is to get behind them, lean in really close to the ear and whisper "excuse me". The combination of the whisper and the closeness causes them to pop straight up off the pole which I then grab and say "thank you".
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homeowner wrote: My secret for pole-sloths is to get behind them, lean in really close to the ear and whisper "excuse me". The combination of the whisper and the closeness causes them to pop straight up off the pole which I then grab and say "thank you".
would breathing heavily on the back of their neck get the point across in an even stronger manner? or maybe after saying excuse me you could gently blow into their ear? that'll get you a pole all to yourself.
Works every time. -
supergirl wrote: [quote=rtraindweller][quote=jackson]
as long as the month pass stays at $76!
a t-rex on every train! a brilliant plan! I think the mta can fit that into the budget.
Monthly pass going up to $81.
i really hope that doesn't go through. the $76 is doable when paired up with my $78 NJ Transit month pass (commute from Brooklyn to Jersey for work, yes I am crazy) but even though it's only $5 more, it's gonna feel like so much more with that 7 is turning to an 8. -
Extreme P-S Olympics!
i dunno what was better, the woman at the very beginning who looks like she's never been more appalled by anything in her life, or the super creepy bug eyed old dude who looked like he popped his first chubby in 20 years. -
My friend calls the people who stand right-next-to the door on a crowded train and make it impossible for people to get in or out quickly "bookends" heehee!
I'm also totally baffled my this particular train tic--is right next to the door even that desirable a spot? You get shoved and cursed at every time the train stops, it's extra crowded, and you're too far from the seats to get a spot when someone else gets up. Step in, Bookends! -
I saw a guy the other morning who wore his ipod headgear backwards. That is the speaker part was facing out. So you could really hear the really crappy dance music blasting out. What a doodoo head. I would also like to nominate the "I must drink my coffee on a crowded subway" as major PITAs. I saw one lady get coffee spilled on her white coat by a mealy mouthed hipstah.
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yoda wrote: I would also like to nominate the "I must drink my coffee on a crowded subway" as major PITAs. I saw one lady get coffee spilled on her white coat by a mealy mouthed hipstah.
I could not disagree more about that one. It is the absolute right of every NYer to have coffee with them at all times. It has nothing to do with hipsters. Spilling coffee is wrong though. If you need coffee that badly (I do) there's no way it should be more than half full by the time you get on the train. -
fruitbat wrote: My friend calls the people who stand right-next-to the door on a crowded train and make it impossible for people to get in or out quickly "bookends" heehee!
When there are no seats, leaning on the doors is the next favorable spot. I don't have to worry about getting pole space, and it's more comfortable than standing.
I'm also totally baffled my this particular train tic--is right next to the door even that desirable a spot? You get shoved and cursed at every time the train stops, it's extra crowded, and you're too far from the seats to get a spot when someone else gets up. Step in, Bookends!
And who's doing this cursing and yelling? It's never happened to me. Most people I see on the train seem afraid of me. -
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I agree with BSDOD, not about his scary visage, but about the doors.
But I prefer to go to the door between trains. I'll take the regular door if that's crowded too, though. There is always a better side to stand on, with fewer door openings. I figure out which side it is and stand there. -
BedStuyDoOrDie wrote: [quote=fruitbat]My friend calls the people who stand right-next-to the door on a crowded train and make it impossible for people to get in or out quickly "bookends" heehee!
When there are no seats, leaning on the doors is the next favorable spot. I don't have to worry about getting pole space, and it's more comfortable than standing.
I'm also totally baffled my this particular train tic--is right next to the door even that desirable a spot? You get shoved and cursed at every time the train stops, it's extra crowded, and you're too far from the seats to get a spot when someone else gets up. Step in, Bookends!
Leaning on the doors also prevents them from closing properly, which delays the train, and makes everyone else on the train late.
So, thanks for nothing. :? -
queencallipygos wrote: Leaning on the doors also prevents them from closing properly, which delays the train, and makes everyone else on the train late.
Uh, you don't actually lean against the door when it's opening or closing - the learning curve on this one is pretty steep, most don't make the mistake more than once. -
i've been known to lean on a door or two -- it is fairly convenient, especially on the newer cars, whose pipes are set too high for me to reach. (what genius decided to put them over the seats (instead of over the area just in front of the seats, as on older cars), so that you not only have to be tall enough to reach straight up to that height, but also to curve over the knees and bags of the seated people, i'd like to know.)
what pisses me off is the folks who stand by the doors and won't *&^%$@&; move out of the way to let people on and off. that really does slow the train at busy times.
it's not that hard: if you want to maintain possession of your precious door spot, just step off the train when the door opens. you'll step back on ahead of the folks waiting, and avoid pissing off the people trying to get the heck off the train. -
WhyFi wrote: [quote=queencallipygos]Leaning on the doors also prevents them from closing properly, which delays the train, and makes everyone else on the train late.
Uh, you don't actually lean against the door when it's opening or closing - the learning curve on this one is pretty steep, most don't make the mistake more than once.
I know that. But people leaning on the doors all the time does put pressure on the workings, and when that happens -- okay, you've ever been on a train when the doors are trying to close and they have to open and shut and open and shut and open and shut and then open just an inch and shut them and then do that open-shut thing again and again and then open all the way and shut them again and...?
...That's because the pressure of people leaning on the doors over time has knocked them out of whack so they don't close neatly. So the driver has to fuss with them to make them close properly so they can move.
And actually, something sweet tea just said:it's not that hard: if you want to maintain possession of your precious door spot, just step off the train when the door opens. you'll step back on ahead of the folks waiting, and avoid pissing off the people trying to get the heck off the train.
but if you step back on ahead of the people trying to get on and then just stand there, don't you end up pissing off the people trying to get the hell ON the train? -
After this morning's commute, I'm thinking my biggest peeve may not be pole sloths or bookends, but surreptitious farters.
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apollonia666 wrote: After this morning's commute, I'm thinking my biggest peeve may not be pole sloths or bookends, but surreptitious farters.
it is an art. that's all I'm saying.
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queencallipygos wrote: [quote=WhyFi][quote=queencallipygos]Leaning on the doors also prevents them from closing properly, which delays the train, and makes everyone else on the train late.
Uh, you don't actually lean against the door when it's opening or closing - the learning curve on this one is pretty steep, most don't make the mistake more than once.
I know that. But people leaning on the doors all the time does put pressure on the workings, and when that happens -- okay, you've ever been on a train when the doors are trying to close and they have to open and shut and open and shut and open and shut and then open just an inch and shut them and then do that open-shut thing again and again and then open all the way and shut them again and...?
I've been on the trains plenty of times when that has happened, without any apparent obstructions, but whenever I've been on the platform and seen it happen from the outside, people are obstructing other doors. What I've seen leads me to believe that open/close door functions are grouped by half-train, not individual doors or individual cars.
Besides, without actually inspecting the inner workings of the failing doors, how can you speculate that door-leaners are to blame for the problems and not something else? They're mechanical, parts wear even with proper maintenance, and do you really think that all of the doors are getting great preventative maintenance? -
I'm 5'2 with heels on. I'm not reaching the above-head bar anytime soon. If the pole is crowded I go for a spot to lean on either by the motorman's control-room or the doors. Yeah, I'm that person. But it beats flying all over the train when I can't hold on to something. If there really is SO MUCH wear and tear on the doors because of folks like me then maybe the designers of the train should considering lowering that bar so people like me can reach it.
It's worth noting that I always step out of the train to let people off rather than just standing there pretending that I'm not in the way. But yeah, there's a reason why some people hang out in the door. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=yoda]I would also like to nominate the "I must drink my coffee on a crowded subway" as major PITAs. I saw one lady get coffee spilled on her white coat by a mealy mouthed hipstah.
I could not disagree more about that one. It is the absolute right of every NYer to have coffee with them at all times. It has nothing to do with hipsters. Spilling coffee is wrong though. If you need coffee that badly (I do) there's no way it should be more than half full by the time you get on the train.
I think coffee is the no. 1 pollutant on trains in the form of spills and stray cups; the New York Daily News is a close second.
Regarding pole sloths--I'm wondering if this is a height issue? I'm tall enough (5' 7") to reach the bars above the seat. I've never had the inclination to reach for a pole. -
queencallipygos wrote: [quote=WhyFi][quote=queencallipygos]Leaning on the doors also prevents them from closing properly, which delays the train, and makes everyone else on the train late.
Uh, you don't actually lean against the door when it's opening or closing - the learning curve on this one is pretty steep, most don't make the mistake more than once.
I know that. But people leaning on the doors all the time does put pressure on the workings, and when that happens -- okay, you've ever been on a train when the doors are trying to close and they have to open and shut and open and shut and open and shut and then open just an inch and shut them and then do that open-shut thing again and again and then open all the way and shut them again and...?
...That's because the pressure of people leaning on the doors over time has knocked them out of whack so they don't close neatly. So the driver has to fuss with them to make them close properly so they can move.
I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that the doors do that when someone in another car is holding a door open- all the doors on the train automatically open, and close, and open, and close when one is being obstructed. That's what I've observed, at least.
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