Operation Impact to Return to Crown Heights
From the NYTimes:
Of the 76 police precincts in New York, there were 6 that showed slight increases in overall crime, officials said. Of those, four were in Brooklyn — the 73rd, 77th, 79th and 84th Precincts; one in Queens, the 101st Precinct; and one on Staten Island, the 122nd Precinct.
He said that the Operation Impact program was being changed: Rather than moving the roughly 900 officers currently in the program to precinct assignments — and replacing them with two-thirds of the recruits graduating from the Police Academy on Thursday — the existing officers will remain in the program and be joined by all 914 recruits, who will go to existing zones or to others being newly configured.
Mr. Kelly said that about one-third of the 1,800 officers in the program would be sent to central Brooklyn precincts: the 70th, 71st, 73rd, 75th, 77th and 79th. Also, 45 officers will be assigned to northern Brooklyn as Impact Response Team officers, a flexible component within Operation Impact where the borough commander has the option of using the officers as he sees fit.
In the Bronx, the 44th, 46th and 52nd Precincts will get Operation Impact officers. In northern Manhattan, the 32nd Precinct in Harlem will get them. In southern Manhattan, the Midtown North and Midtown South Precincts will get Operation Impact officers. In Queens, the 103rd, 110th and 115th Precincts will get additional officers in the program.
In addition, a housing police unit in Brooklyn will get an Impact Response Team. Police in the transit system will get a similar team of officers, known as an Impact Task Force. Staten Island will also get more overtime tours for the program.
Mr. Kelly said that if he had to identify one program “that has been the prime reason why crime has gone down in this city, at least in this administration, it has been Operation Impact.”
Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/nyregion/27crime.html
Of the 76 police precincts in New York, there were 6 that showed slight increases in overall crime, officials said. Of those, four were in Brooklyn — the 73rd, 77th, 79th and 84th Precincts; one in Queens, the 101st Precinct; and one on Staten Island, the 122nd Precinct.
He said that the Operation Impact program was being changed: Rather than moving the roughly 900 officers currently in the program to precinct assignments — and replacing them with two-thirds of the recruits graduating from the Police Academy on Thursday — the existing officers will remain in the program and be joined by all 914 recruits, who will go to existing zones or to others being newly configured.
Mr. Kelly said that about one-third of the 1,800 officers in the program would be sent to central Brooklyn precincts: the 70th, 71st, 73rd, 75th, 77th and 79th. Also, 45 officers will be assigned to northern Brooklyn as Impact Response Team officers, a flexible component within Operation Impact where the borough commander has the option of using the officers as he sees fit.
In the Bronx, the 44th, 46th and 52nd Precincts will get Operation Impact officers. In northern Manhattan, the 32nd Precinct in Harlem will get them. In southern Manhattan, the Midtown North and Midtown South Precincts will get Operation Impact officers. In Queens, the 103rd, 110th and 115th Precincts will get additional officers in the program.
In addition, a housing police unit in Brooklyn will get an Impact Response Team. Police in the transit system will get a similar team of officers, known as an Impact Task Force. Staten Island will also get more overtime tours for the program.
Mr. Kelly said that if he had to identify one program “that has been the prime reason why crime has gone down in this city, at least in this administration, it has been Operation Impact.”
Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/nyregion/27crime.html
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Well, that's good news. It's bad that recruiting is down because Bloomberg won't pay cops enough, but it seems that Kelly is at least making good use of scarce resources.
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This is great news any way you look at it. Hurray for foot patrols.
My sense is that this is an example of Bloomberg calling the NYPD's bluff. When asked why crime is up in Crown Hts, the police say that there is not enough manpower. Now there will be and we'll see if manpower was the issue. Let's hope it works. -
i just hope this doesn't make the neighborhood lose its original flavor. if people can't handle the crime and aren't tough enough to live here, they should leave.
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We think this is great news and thank everyone for participating in the letter writing campaign
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CrownHeightsCoalition wrote: We think this is great news and thank everyone for participating in the letter writing campaign
Thank you for organizing it and keeping us informed! -
Great job Nina.
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The reality is that most of you won't be benefitting from the new Cops. The IMPACT ZONE is from Nostrand ave- to Franklin ave and from Eastern Parkway to Pacific st. The rest of you probably won't be seeing an added police presence especially if you're in the WEST end of the 77.
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HEY!!
What about your New Years resolution to be less negative :evil: -
That wasn't negative boo! That was just factual info, I'm glad the 77 is getting more Cops, but the Impact program is very clearly defined. These new Police Officers are only to Patrol the Impact Zone.
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Well, from what I understand, the crime spike is happening mostly in the Crow Hill district anyway, so it seems that the cops are going where they are needed most.
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I'm also happy to hear about getting impact program back. I am in the zone
However, on the flip side, keep in mind that the IMPACT foot patrol officers have a lot of time on their hands as they walk around and as a direct result they write an awful lot of parking tickets.
Last time IMPACT was in the area my business got 5 parking tickets in a two month period. My normal average in this area is none. -
wirenut wrote: However, on the flip side, keep in mind that the IMPACT foot patrol officers have a lot of time on their hands as they walk around and as a direct result they write an awful lot of parking tickets.
Maybe you should learn how to follow the rules.
Last time IMPACT was in the area my business got 5 parking tickets in a two month period. My normal average in this area is none. -
ParadeRest wrote: Maybe you should learn how to follow the rules.
Maybe if you got a ticket every time you parked on the sidewalk or illegally in a non-emergency situation, you wouldn't be so holier-than-thou. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=ParadeRest]Maybe you should learn how to follow the rules.
Maybe if you got a ticket every time you parked on the sidewalk or illegally in a non-emergency situation, you wouldn't be so holier-than-thou.
If you know that you're getting tickets maybe that should be a hint. A cop on foot has a "performance goal" just like any other cop. If you know there are extra foot patrols then you should realize there will be more summonses isssued. Just be glad you aren't in Manhattan. That double parking that everybody gets away with on street cleaning days doesn't work in Manhattan. Neither does parking on a hydrant to go into a funeral home or church. Don't even think about parking in a bus stop in Manhattan either. -
Upon moving here from Queens I could not believe that we were allowed to double park on alternate side street parking days. I live near Kingston and Dean and I'm still hoping we get some increased foot patrol and on another note some better shops.
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Carnivore wrote: [quote=ParadeRest]Maybe you should learn how to follow the rules.
Maybe if you got a ticket every time you parked on the sidewalk or illegally in a non-emergency situation, you wouldn't be so holier-than-thou.
It's interesting how different things loook from the other side of the "blue line". Cops apparently feel that their special line of work entitles them to break the laws that the rest of us must conform to. The result is private cars owned by cops parked all over place, on sidewalks, in crosswalks, in tow away zones, you name it. If only cops could see how much this behavior erodes the average citizen's respect for the law in general and cops in specific..... -
Do you think the Law is eroded when people are alllowed to Double Park in front of their Church whens theirs a service?(Dean st-6th-Carlton), (St johns Plc-Utica- Schenectady ave) Do you think alternate side of the street cleaning affords people to legally double park?(everywhere) Do you think School Teachers should be allowed to park inside of the School yards where they work?(Sterling Plc-Albany ave)(schenectady-Lincoln pl) Should Postal Employees and Firemen be allowed to park on the sidewalk? (post office St Johns Pl -Troy ave)(firehouse Opp 500 st johns pl) Should Drug store owners be allowed to park and drive on the sidewalk in front of their stores? (Bedford ave-Eastern pkwy) Should people be allowed to Park in the safety zone (front of 35 Eastern Pkwy) Should Parks Dept Employees be able to Park their private vehicles in Parks? (Brower Park) Should recruiters for the military be allowed to park in No Standing Zones? (Eastern pkwy-Utica ave) Should the supervisor for MTA be allowed to park on the Median of Eastern Pkwy?(Eastern pkwy-Utica) The point is, and I can go on and on and on............Theres too many cars in the City and too little places for them. Some people abuse their priveledges, while others never do. If a War is to be started, then everyone is fair game!
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King without a crown wrote: Do you think the Law is eroded when people are alllowed to Double Park in front of their Church whens theirs a service?(Dean st-6th-Carlton), (St johns Plc-Utica- Schenectady ave) Do you think alternate side of the street cleaning affords people to legally double park?(everywhere) Do you think School Teachers should be allowed to park inside of the School yards where they work?(Sterling Plc-Albany ave)(schenectady-Lincoln pl) Should Postal Employees and Firemen be allowed to park on the sidewalk? (post office St Johns Pl -Troy ave)(firehouse Opp 500 st johns pl) Should Drug store owners be allowed to park and drive on the sidewalk in front of their stores? (Bedford ave-Eastern pkwy) Should people be allowed to Park in the safety zone (front of 35 Eastern Pkwy) Should Parks Dept Employees be able to Park their private vehicles in Parks? (Brower Park) Should recruiters for the military be allowed to park in No Standing Zones? (Eastern pkwy-Utica ave) Should the supervisor for MTA be allowed to park on the Median of Eastern Pkwy?(Eastern pkwy-Utica) The point is, and I can go on and on and on............Theres too many cars in the City and too little places for them. Some people abuse their privileges, while others never do. If a War is to be started, then everyone is fair game!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and NO! Park legally or get a ticket.
Cops too.
If they're responding to an emergency, they should be able to park wherever they need to. But if they're parking their private car, they should have to look for a spot like everyone else. Cop cars on the sidewalk or in front of a hydrant, or blocking a crosswalk, or double-parked, or whatever are no less of a hazard or inconvenience than any other car. It's not a matter of a "war." If there's no emergency, it's just laziness and entitlement, and shows total disrespect toward the community these officers are supposed to be protecting. -
It's nice to say just "follow the rules" of parking. The reality is that it is very difficult to conduct busy NYC life styles and/or business and follow ALL parking rules 100% of the time. If you're retired and you have an hour to kill to find a legal spot that's great, but what do the rest of us do?
All I was getting at is that people of the community can prevent getting "extra" tickets if they become aware the IMPACT program is starting by paying more attention to how they park.
Not for nothing some of these parking rules are rediculous:
1>defective equipment ie: cracked mirror. How is that a parking problem? Catch the person with a cracked mirror while they are actually driving.
2>license plate frames: you are not legally allowed to have a license plate frame, ever. How is that a parking problem?
3>you are allowed to park you own PASSENGER vehicle across your own driveway, however, you are not allowed to park your own COMMERCIAL vehicle across your own driveway.
4>advertising on a commercial vehicle is not allowed unless it is advertising the business you are in. Yet passenger vehicles can have advertising on them.
5>you can not park within 15 ft of a hydrant even if you are across the street from it (on very narrow streets like in Brooklyn Heights this is a problem for trucks)
I understand the message of obeying rules. It is, I hope, how we teach our children. But why do we have some crazy rules.
And while I'm at it, when is the Police Dept (or someone else) going to start doing something about all these cars with out-of-state plates that are cheating on their auto insurance. They are commiting felony insurance fraud, but I can't legally park my own Brooklyn truck across my own Brooklyn driveway, even though I pay about $4,000.00 a year per truck for insurance. -
It must have started already. I saw four of the new rookies today.
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You are right, Operation Impact is in full affect. Hopefully the 20-40 footposts throughout the Impact Zone will help keep Crime down atleast in that area.
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wirenut wrote: It's nice to say just "follow the rules" of parking. The reality is that it is very difficult to conduct busy NYC life styles and/or business and follow ALL parking rules 100% of the time. If you're retired and you have an hour to kill to find a legal spot that's great, but what do the rest of us do?
....Not use a car in the first place? -
queencalliygos wrote: ....Not use a car in the first place?
I never tried it before but when the weather gets warmer I will try to do one of my jobs using a bicycle. Transporting my 500 pounds of tools and supplies by bicycle will be interesting (not to mention how to lock it up.) -
wirenut wrote: [quote=queencalliygos]....Not use a car in the first place?
I never tried it before but when the weather gets warmer I will try to do one of my jobs using a bicycle. Transporting my 500 pounds of tools and supplies by bicycle will be interesting (not to mention how to lock it up.)
You might find Jared Diamond's op ed piece in the NY Times today interesting. He notes that the 1 billion people living in developed countries use on average 32 times as many resources as the 5.5 billion living in undeveloped countries. While he notes demographers are expecting world popuation to exceed 10 billion by mid-century, the real problem is what happens when those undeveloped 5.5 billion people start to live like Americans. It would be like having 8.5 billion new Americans! From world resource depletion perspective, it would be like having 272 billion people on the planet (32 x 8.5 billion) plus the 1.5 billion in the already developed world. Do you think that's going to work?
Now what was that you said about not being able to ride a bike? Do you think you'll have any alternative in a few years?
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King without a crown wrote: Do you think the Law is eroded when people are alllowed to Double Park in front of their Church whens theirs a service?(Dean st-6th-Carlton), (St johns Plc-Utica- Schenectady ave) Do you think alternate side of the street cleaning affords people to legally double park?(everywhere) Do you think School Teachers should be allowed to park inside of the School yards where they work?(Sterling Plc-Albany ave)(schenectady-Lincoln pl) Should Postal Employees and Firemen be allowed to park on the sidewalk? (post office St Johns Pl -Troy ave)(firehouse Opp 500 st johns pl) Should Drug store owners be allowed to park and drive on the sidewalk in front of their stores? (Bedford ave-Eastern pkwy) Should people be allowed to Park in the safety zone (front of 35 Eastern Pkwy) Should Parks Dept Employees be able to Park their private vehicles in Parks? (Brower Park) Should recruiters for the military be allowed to park in No Standing Zones? (Eastern pkwy-Utica ave) Should the supervisor for MTA be allowed to park on the Median of Eastern Pkwy?(Eastern pkwy-Utica) The point is, and I can go on and on and on............Theres too many cars in the City and too little places for them. Some people abuse their priveledges, while others never do. If a War is to be started, then everyone is fair game!
Like Carnivore sez, it would be cool if they all obeyed the law. But particularly cops should, because they're the ones sworn to uphold the law, not flagrantly violate it! -
To return to the original topic:
I'm confused about the way this was worded. Are most of the new police in the area going to be rookies, as in this is their first assignment? That seems like it could have some possible negative consequences... -
Brand spankin new out of the Academy, graduated Dec 27.
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1055 Dean wrote: To return to the original topic:
They have to start somewhere.
I'm confused about the way this was worded. Are most of the new police in the area going to be rookies, as in this is their first assignment? That seems like it could have some possible negative consequences... -
Yeah, let's throw them in the deep end of the pool!
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According to a New York Times article, they are being paired with officers alreayd in the program: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/nyregion/27crime.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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