another angry rant about out-of-control children
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bklyngirl wrote: I think Hitler said that...... :?
Why am I not surprised to see Godwin's Law kick in here? :roll:Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is a mainstay of Internet culture, an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
Godwin's Law does not dispute whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be apt. It is precisely because such a reference or comparison may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued, that overuse of the Hitler/Nazi comparison should be avoided, as it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. -
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"Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)"...soon brklyngirl will be her own analogy.
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How to be considerate:
1. Walk on the right side of the sidewalk. Pass on the left.
2. Say "excuse me", "Thank you", "you're welcome", etc.
3. Respond when someone says Good day! or Hello! to you. Do not just look at them as if they had 2 heads. All of us natives are not looking to mug you. This is especially important if it is a neighbor or someone else you see everyday.
4. Help someone else once in a while. Help an elderly person with their packages, hold the door open for someone, etc.
5. If someone smiles at you, most of the time it is safe to smile back. It's even safe to smile at another person first.
6. Stop playing chicken with cars on 7th ave. Someday, someone will run over you, I promise. It is especially important not to play chicken with cars on 7th when you are wheeling a carriage. You may be willing to risk yourself but it's not fair to the kid. Someday, someone will run over you, I promise.
7. When out with your children, do not let them touch other people or other peoples stuff.
8. When you are in a restaurant with a child, remember you and your children are guests. A guest does not run around and touch everything and roam wherever they would like and scream at the top of their lungs. If the children will not behave, they must be removed. Again, basic manners.
9. Some people have a morbid fear of dogs, some people are very allergic to dogs. Walk your dog on a short leash. Don't bring them in stores, and please don't let them touch other people. Someday, someone will smash your dogs face in with their boot.
10. Be considerate of the toys you bring with you to keep your babies occupied. For example, bringing an xylophone for the 2 hour wait in the post office is a bad idea.
11. Give up your seat to an elderly or disabled person or a person with a small child on a bus or train. And teach your children to do the same.
12. Buy a $15 umbrella stroller for the bus and train trips. Never bring a big carriage on a train unless you keep it folded and in front of you. Bring the umbrella stroller to the supermarket and fold and put it in your shopping cart. The baby goes in the baby seat.
13. If you are going to stop and stare at a package of skinless chicken breasts for 15 minutes, please push your shopping cart to the side of the aisle.
14. Do not let your children sit and play in the middle of any floor space that is not in your own home.
And for chrissakes please LOSE the crocheted hats with the pom-pom on top. They look like your grandma made them for you when you were 10. -
...and we're on the 4th page of this thread AND Godwin's Law has been invoked.
What's next? -
Plus the posting of that stupid considerate list twice. I think we're done.
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Good luck to the hipsters in finding a real job making real money so they can move to Manhattan where they won't be bothered by children. And good luck growing old and bitter and lonely.
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apollonia666 wrote: [quote=bklyngirl]I think Hitler said that...... :?
Why am I not surprised to see Godwin's Law kick in here? :roll:
Um, bklyngirl only said that as a joke because we already went over Godwin's law - this isn't Godwin's Law kicking in.
This whole thread is going around in circles and making me dizzy. -
Yes, I knew it: we forgot to call 'stupid' a list of basic rules on urban courtesy; make some more sweeping generalizations about those we disagree with; and wish bitterness and solitude on them in the process. That should pretty much sum it up. Anybody got anything else to add?
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MichaelKeys wrote: Anybody got anything else to add?
How about refusing to acknowledge the basic premise of the other person's argument and instead disagreeing with your interpretation of their stance? That's the one that I'm a fan of. -
Innocent X wrote: Good luck to the hipsters in finding a real job making real money so they can move to Manhattan where they won't be bothered by children. And good luck growing old and bitter and lonely.
Wow. So deep and biting. Which stay-at-home Park Slope Daddy blog is yours again? Something that gets maybe 13 hits a day and makes your life so fulfilled and meaningful?
Post that url for us so we can all take refuge in your profound and empowering understanding of life as we know it. I can't live a worthwhile life in this neighborhood without such intense guidance. Really. Whatever shall you suggest next, Nebraska again? Maybe Kansas? -
Wrong guess.
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MichaelKeys wrote: A smoke, a drink, a foreign city at night.
Are you (NAME DELETED) or just his biggest fan?
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Anonymous wrote: How to be considerate:
Note: this doesn't apply if the person smiling is a child.
5. If someone smiles at you, most of the time it is safe to smile back. It's even safe to smile at another person first. -
Anonymous wrote:
This one is interesting. A guest of whom exactly? Cause let me tell you, every restaurant owner in town wants the dollars spent by families in this neighborhood. As do the servers as they get tipped better.
8. When you are in a restaurant with a child, remember you and your children are guests. A guest does not run around and touch everything and roam wherever they would like and scream at the top of their lungs. If the children will not behave, they must be removed. Again, basic manners. -
Anonymous wrote:
Let me know how this goes when you have a kid.
12. Buy a $15 umbrella stroller for the bus and train trips. Never bring a big carriage on a train unless you keep it folded and in front of you. Bring the umbrella stroller to the supermarket and fold and put it in your shopping cart. The baby goes in the baby seat.
14. Do not let your children sit and play in the middle of any floor space that is not in your own home. -
laura wrote: [quote=apollonia666][quote=bklyngirl]I think Hitler said that...... :?
Why am I not surprised to see Godwin's Law kick in here? :roll:
Um, bklyngirl only said that as a joke because we already went over Godwin's law - this isn't Godwin's Law kicking in.
This whole thread is going around in circles and making me dizzy.
Oof, my bad. I apologize. To be perfectly honest, I haven't really read the whole thread -- I stopped looking at it sometime back, probably when it went on to a second page. -
Oh my god I can't believe I am posting again and continuing this thread but trapped in the house with napping toddlers and ....
I want to know why this gets so vitriolic? Why is there so much anger on both sides? If we could figure out why it gets so bitter--then maybe there would be common ground.
I can say what annoys me is that the onus of blame seems to be on the parents when there is enough self-absorption to spread around. Rudeness and thoughtlessess happens with certain people well before they have kids. -
apollonia666 wrote: Oof, my bad. I apologize. To be perfectly honest, I haven't really read the whole thread -- I stopped looking at it sometime back, probably when it went on to a second page.
No fair not reading the whole thread! It's like an endurance test. -
want to know why this gets so vitriolic? Why is there so much anger on both sides? If we could figure out why it gets so bitter--then maybe there would be common ground.
I blame it on Innocent X. I guess it's only fitting that this time around he is being listened to (sort of).
From Wikipedia:
"...Innocent condemned the peace treaty as detrimental to the Catholic faith and declared it invalid - but no one paid any attention to him." -
Anonymous wrote:
If the store allows or invites dogs in then guess what - I'm going in. Do you know that you can bring your dogs to many hotels - once spent the weekend at the Soho Grand with my dogs - and it was great.
9. Some people have a morbid fear of dogs, some people are very allergic to dogs. Walk your dog on a short leash. Don't bring them in stores, and please don't let them touch other people. Someday, someone will smash your dogs face in with their boot.
and I seriously seriously seriously doubt anyone is going to smash one of my Pitbulls in the face. Not that they would probably do anything but you wouldnt know that from looking at them. -
I know this is off-topic, but I've just read through this entire thread and I am completely exhausted but...
I must ask someone to help me with some history behind this so-called "Innocent X." His incredibly witty, trenchant posts (particularly the rapier like quality demonstrated when using quotations from other posts) appear well known to others but to me he remains a mystery. I was particularly enthralled by the intimation that he may be a "stay at home Daddy/blogger"... -
Innocent - nothing I listed is undoable. Stop fooling yourself. I have 2 kids, 16 and 6.
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thirtythreesixty wrote: I know this is off-topic, but I've just read through this entire thread and I am completely exhausted but...
Your bar for wit, trenchancy, and rapier-like quality must be incredibly low.
I must ask someone to help me with some history behind this so-called "Innocent X." His incredibly witty, trenchant posts (particularly the rapier like quality demonstrated when using quotations from other posts) appear well known to others but to me he remains a mystery. I was particularly enthralled by the intimation that he may be a "stay at home Daddy/blogger"... -
Anonymous wrote: [quote=thirtythreesixty]I know this is off-topic, but I've just read through this entire thread and I am completely exhausted but...
Your bar for wit, trenchancy, and rapier-like quality must be incredibly low.
I must ask someone to help me with some history behind this so-called "Innocent X." His incredibly witty, trenchant posts (particularly the rapier like quality demonstrated when using quotations from other posts) appear well known to others but to me he remains a mystery. I was particularly enthralled by the intimation that he may be a "stay at home Daddy/blogger"...
Very low - almost as low as your ability to recognize snark... unless you're using very high levels of snark that I'm not picking up on... oh my. -
with jeebus, all things are possible.
Right Ted?
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shit this thing still going
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Children are the future.
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"Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony of the miserable souls who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart STAND the SHOCKING FACTS of ... children from Park Slope?"
-- Criswell, Plan 9 From Outer Space.
Okay, I changed the last line. It was really about grave robbers from outer space:
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Ok, I would love to see someone attempt to smash one of my dog's faces with their boot. Not because either of my dogs would do anything but because I would do something. No one touches my babies and I would f@#k anyone up who tries. Especially since they don't have a mean bone in their bodies and I sincerely doubt they would even try to defend themselves. Plus they know how to behave themselves in public.
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