nostrand avenue: fulton - eastern parkway

Its not deserted at night, but it is a LOT less busy than during the day. I find that the southern end (closer to EP) is a bit busier as there is a korean greengrocer that stays open very late (it was open at 2am one night) and there are a couple of bodegas that are 24 hrs. I think there is less traffic when you get into the blocks north of St Marks until Atlantic. Never had a problem, but the latest I take the train is about midnight. After that I car service or cab it.

Subject: Re: nostrand avenue: fulton - eastern parkway

brooklyn zoo wrote: Thanks so much for the advice. Looking at the crime map, Crown Heights has a good track record - way better than Prospect Heights.

As much as I hate to tell you . . . if you are talking about *our* crime map, it was started in Prospect Heights, so events in all the other neighborhoods are underrepresented.

Subject: Re: nostrand avenue: fulton - eastern parkway

brooklyn zoo wrote: We are moving to the neighborhood and wanted to get insight on nostrand avenue between fulton and eastern parkway. Its super busy in the daytime but deserted at night. Has anyone ever had problems walking to and from the trains on nostrand at night?

I regularly walk home at all hours from the 3 stop at Nostrand Ave. I personally have never had a problem, but you certainly need to be aware of your surroundings (as in almost any area of a city late at night). Granted I don't have to walk that far, but I have walked further down Nostrand on certain occasions. Some of the blocks can get a bit more desolate as you go further north towards Atlantic. My roomate has encountered the occasional racially charged remark coming from the A at Nostrand late at night, but nothing more.

Luckily you have the fruit market and the corner store that are open 24 hrs. between the Eastern Parkway and Lincoln Pl. I've also had friends (including my tiny girflriend) visit at all hours of the night and been fine.

Subject: Re: nostrand avenue: fulton - eastern parkway

breatheeasy_tolazytologin wrote: [quote=BrooklynzCookin]

Luckily you have the fruit market and the corner store that are open 24 hrs. between the Eastern Parkway and Lincoln Pl. I've also had friends (including my tiny girflriend) visit at all hours of the night and been fine.

there is a 24hr fruit market?? oh man i have been going so out of my way for late-night fruit cravings
is the fruit any good // cheap?

Yup! Its one of those typical Korean fruit/veggie/misc. groceries that you get all over Brooklyn. Fruit's real good (super fresh) and I use the veggies all the time for cooking. The only night they close on is Sunday. Besides being able to get food all night, another plus is that the light from the store considerably decreases the sketchiness that you sometimes get on dark strips of Nostrand late at night.

Anonymous wrote: I regularly take the train home (A stop on Fulton) at all hours of night 12am - 4 am and never had or seen a problem.

I live just off Nostrand and also take the A home from Manhattan and walk along this stretch every day, sometimes in that 12am - 4am time period. So far without a problem. I'm also a pretty big guy, which could be a contributing factor. It seems pretty well lit and though not as bustling as the day time, there are usually other people out and about.

Subject: Re: nostrand avenue: fulton - eastern parkway

Anonymous wrote: [quote=brooklyn zoo]We are moving to the neighborhood and wanted to get insight on nostrand avenue between fulton and eastern parkway. Its super busy in the daytime but deserted at night. Has anyone ever had problems walking to and from the trains on nostrand at night?

That is mr. Jeff's neighborhood. If you know him , you are extreamly safe. He owns most of it. NOBODY messes with him or his friends.

Jeff is so old school that he probably thinks North Crown Heights is still "the ghetto". That's the trouble with old timer's: they can't live in the present. In their minds, NCH will always be like it was in the 1980's, that is, going down like a rock. They'll reminisce endlessly about the "good ol' days" and how wonderful Nostrand Avenue used to be, the wonderful shops, the friendly merchants, how clean and safe it used to be, yadayadayada. Well, get over it Jeff. Black people exist, they're not all bad and the 50's are dead forever... get with the program.

Just because you're over 50 doesn't mean you have to act old. The future is ready for you, are you ready for it!

Nostrand isn't deserted at night. I walk my dog on that street in the evenings and it's fine...

mr. met wrote: who the fuck is jeff?

Jeff Corwin is a guy who owns tons of buildings along Nostrand Ave. I've known him probably 10 years anyways. I've attempted to have several real estate dealings with him and always found him very "old school" which just not my scene. He married into a family that owned literally half of the commercial buildings along Nostrand Ave in Crown Heights and Bed-Stuy. My impression is that the old man gave him Crown Heights to manage. I've always heard great stories about the father-in-law but not so many about Jeff.

I'm sure he's helped some folks along the way and I in no way mean to disrepect him for the positive things he has done. It's just that some folks don't seem to want to grow, you know. I don't see him at this point as a positive force in the community.

He moved to Deer Park on Long Island a long time ago and only comes into the 'hood twice a week to collect his rent money. I saw him only once at a community board meeting where his old school approach just played, well, pretty old school, which is to say it didn't go over too well. He's told me that he's divesting of his Crown Heights real estate and investing in shopping malls and the like in warm states. Sounds like a retirement plan to me, so I say, power to him. If you don't want to be here, then it's best to move on.

I understand what Capt Planet writes about has largely happened...he has sold and refocused his energies elsewhere...so no need to further romanticize/rhapsodize about the past...turn your attention and thoughts to the other thread on top of this ----what does Nostrand Avenue need...might be a more useful discussion...