CH Shmira posting kid pics

not as much as the first comment does.

"lock them up"???

lord have mercy.

I think it's deplorable. They're KIDS for God's sake. They have also got to be kidding me with the whole ridiculus faux shield. Crown Heights Saftey Patrol, my ass. It's just so obnoxious....
:roll:

Subject: get them locked up??

You say the first comment bothers you?
does it bother you when 10-12 year old boys through rocks at a school bus filled with young children coming home from school?
THAT i am sure is OK in your book.
but to even suggest that perhaps they deserve punishment for acts such as these?
thats absurd ! unheard of !! crazy !!
they are only kids let them get away with what they are doing and that way when they grow up not having learned their lesson, maybe they will rob, beat or kill YOUR son or daughter.

Subject: to daver

first of all yes! not all the time but sometimes YES!
i personally know people who have been foolish in their youth gone thru the system and are now very nice responsible people who have families of their own and stay away from trouble etc.
They tell me that had they not been locked up they would still be into the same illegal and bad behavior etc.
Some people do need to learn the harsh way I am not saying those kids need that. I am only pointing out the blindness of the commenter who says because they are kids how can one even suggest "locking them up".
However I am very sorry for posting on this thread since obviously this thread is not interested in truth or personal opinion. This thread is only interested in the CATHOLIC way.
So please explain according to catholicism what is wrong with the http://chshmira.org putting up pics of young boys who have been throwing various objects at other boys playing under thier building?

Subject: Re: to daver

ch resident wrote: what is wrong with the http://chshmira.org putting up pics of young boys who have been throwing various objects at other boys playing under their building?

These are minors. If the police are not allowed to question them without their parents what gives these patrol people the right to do the same thing. Putting a child's face on a website without their parent's consent is wrong. How do you know that this child threw it, there are no pictures of the child doing so. What about the kid with him? How many pictures was taken of this child - is that not considered stalking? What happens if an angry group see this child alone and decide to take matters into their own hands - does two wrongs make a right?

...um, pretty sure the "catholic" thing was a joke about the scandals involving boys and priests and...you figure it out.

meanwhile, since it's my comment you have an issue with:

YES OF COURSE IT BOTHERS ME when people are cruel or violent.

however, these are CHILDREN. when one of your children makes a mistake or does something bad, do you call the cops? do you ask the police to write up a report on your son when he takes your daughter's toys? it is stealing, after all. or do you instead treat them differently from how you treat adults, because they are still learning how to act?

these are children. children -- all kinds -- mess up sometimes. OUR job as adults is to teach them how to act. they'll be in charge one of these days, and we'd better hope we've given them instruction in compassion. in my opinion, draconian measures will only teach distrust and hatred.

wow, you go and brand these kids in such a manner and they're bound to turn into the kind of people you most despise in the long run.

and why bother involving religion into this debate as well? you obviously didn't get the sarcasm, but regardless of all that, do you really want to go there?

you obviously have an agenda based on the photos and depictions in that blog that doesn't really capture things in a fair perspective. it's not necessary to play the race card, but anyone can clearly see what that's all about.

Subject: .

To sweat tea;

What you seem to be missing here is a pattern of yes, young boys committing offences that most children their age would not commit. Yes, I agree children should be treated differently from adults and, no I would not call the police on a child for doing something childish. However what would you do if unattended children came and PHYSICALY abused your children and you asked them to please leave and not to do it again? But they keep on coming back and they are not merely stealing they are hurting other children! What would you do if they were YOUR children being PHYSICALY hurt time and again?


To stacy;

As per http://chshmira.org

The patrol people did not question anybody they simply “asked them to please refrain from entering the building premises in the future.”
The site clearly states there was a “PAIR” (meaning two) of children.


To god below;

Do you live in Crown Heights?
There is no agenda except to publicize what happens on the Streets of CH
giving people a chance to see the way it really goes down

Subject: .

as per everyones problem with posting pictures of children;

Permissible Subjects
Despite misconceptions to the contrary,
the following subjects can
almost always be photographed lawfully
from public places:

accident and fire scenes
children
celebrities
bridges and other infrastructure
residential and commercial buildings
industrial facilities and public utilities
transportation facilities (e.g., airports)
Superfund sites
criminal activities
law enforcement officers[/u]

source:
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

Subject: Re: .

ch resident wrote: To sweat tea;

What you seem to be missing here is a pattern of yes, young boys committing offences that most children their age would not commit. Yes, I agree children should be treated differently from adults and, no I would not call the police on a child for doing something childish. However what would you do if unattended children came and PHYSICALY abused your children and you asked them to please leave and not to do it again? But they keep on coming back and they are not merely stealing they are hurting other children! What would you do if they were YOUR children being PHYSICALY hurt time and again?

children do hurt each other. physically.

that is what i meant about children learning to learn how to behave.

but when a boy in my 7th grade class put a butterfly net over my head and pulled it back so hard that its metal ring left my vision blurry for days, we dealt with the school and his parents, not law enforcement. my parents were very angry. the boy was punished, but not with incarceration.

(if it had been up to me at the time, i would have had him publicly drowned. but then, i was also a child.)

Subject: .

to sweet tea;

You are correct that it is usually best not to involve Police in these issues.
and as you can read Police was not called or notified of this issue.
But you have to recognize a difference between a boy in your class and a total stranger in the street.